,APP5DIX #a 
,FEEL+ ,P[]S ,GR[+--,AN ,9T]VIEW ) ,SILVIA ,F$]ICI 

,PEOPLE 3 

,AU?OR 3 ,H>I ,ALLURI 

,AU?OR 3 ,C>LA ,B]GMAN 

,AU?OR 3 ,NICK ,MONTGOM]Y 

,TEXT 3 

,APP5DIX #a3 ,FEEL+ ,P[]S ,GR[+--,AN ,9T]VIEW ) ,SILVIA ,F$]ICI 

,JANU>Y #a#h1 #baf 

,SILVIA ,F$]ICI3 ,MY POLITICS RESONATE ) Y\R IDEA ( 0JOYFUL MILITANCY40 ,I'M A /RONG BELIEV] ?AT EI!R Y\R POLITICS IS LIB]AT+ & ?AT GIVES Y\ JOY1 OR !RE'S SOME?+ WRONG ) !M4 

,I'VE GONE ?R\< PHASES ( 0SAD POLITICS 0 MYSELF & ,I'VE LE>N$ TO ID5TIFY ! MI/AKES ?AT G5]ATE IT4 ,IT HAS MANY S\RCES4 ,BUT ONE FACTOR IS ! T5D5CY TO EXAGG]ATE ! IMPORTANCE ( :AT WE CAN DO BY \RSELVES1 SO ?AT WE ALWAYS FEEL GUILTY = NOT ACCOMPLI%+ 5\<4 

,:5 ,I WAS ?9K+ AB\T ?IS CONV]SATION1 ,I WAS REM9D$ ( ,NIETZS*E'S METAMORPHOSES 9 ,?US ,SPOKE ,Z>A?U/RA & HIS IMAGE ( ! CAMEL4 ,! CAMEL IS ! PROTOTYPE ( ! MILITANT :O BURD5S H]SELF ) HUGE AM\NTS ( WORK1 BECAUSE %E ?9KS ?AT ! DE/9Y ( ! WORLD DEP5DS ON H] OV]WORK4 ,9EVITABLY %E'S ALWAYS SADD5$ BECAUSE ! GOAL IS ALWAYS REC$+ & %E DOES NOT HAVE ! TIME TO BE FULLY PRES5T TO H] LIFE & RECOGNIZE ! TRANS=MATIVE POSSIBILITIES 9H]5T TO H] WORK4 

,NICK & C>LA3 ,Y\ SAID ?AT Y\ FEEL LIKE !RE >E SO MANY S\RCES TO SAD MILITANCY.<8.> & CAN Y\ SPEAK TO SOME MORE ( ?OSE8 

,F$]ICI3 ,SAD MILITANCY COMES FROM SETT+ GOALS ?AT Y\ CANNOT A*IEVE1 SO ?AT ! \TCOME IS ALWAYS \T ( REA*1 ALWAYS PROJECT$ 9TO ! FUTURE & Y\ FEEL CONT9U\SLY DEFEAT$4 0,SAD POLITICS 0 IS ALSO DEF9+ Y\R /RUGGLE 9 PURELY OPPOSITIONAL T]MS1 :I* PUTS Y\ 9 A /ATE ( P]MAN5T T5SION & FAILURE4 ,A JOYFUL POLITICS IS A POLITICS ?AT IS CON/RUCTIVE & PREFIGURATIVE4 ,I'M 5C\RAG$ BY ! FACT ?AT MORE PEOPLE TODAY SEE ?AT Y\ CANNOT CONT9U\SLY PO/PONE ! A*IEVEM5T ( Y\R GOALS TO AN ALWAYS REC$+ FUTURE4 

,JOYFUL POLITICS IS POLITICS ?AT *ANGE Y\R LIFE = ! BETT] ALREADY 9 ! PRES5T4 ,?IS IS NOT TO D5Y ?AT POLITICAL 5GAGEM5T (T5 9VOLVES SUFF]+4 ,9 FACT \R POLITICAL 9VOLVEM5T (T5 IS BORN ( SUFF]+4 ,BUT ! JOY IS KN[+ & DECID+ ?AT WE CAN DO SOME?+ AB\T IT1 IT IS RECOGNIZ+ ?AT WE %>E \R PA9 ) O!R PEOPLE1 IS FEEL+ ! SOLID>ITY ( ?OSE >\ND US4 ,MILITANTS 9 ,>G5T9A SPEAK ( 0POLITICIZ+ \R SADNESS40 

,?IS IS :Y ,I DON'T BELIEVE 9 ! CONCEPT ( 0SELF-SACRIFICE10 :]E SELF-SACRIFICE MEANS ?AT WE DO ?+S ?AT GO AGA9/ \R NE$S1 \R DESIRES1 \R POT5TIALS1 & = ! SAKE ( POLITICAL WORK WE HAVE TO REPRESS \RSELVES4 ,?IS HAS BE5 A COMMON PRACTICE 9 POLITICAL MOVEM5TS 9 ! PA/4 ,BUT IT IS ONE ?AT PRODUCES CON/ANTLY DISSATISFI$ 9DIVIDUALS4 ,AGA91 :AT WE DO MAY LEAD TO SUFF]+1 BUT ?IS MAY BE PREF]ABLE TO ! K9D ( SELF-DE/RUCTION WE W\LD HAVE FAC$ HAD WE REMA9$ 9ACTIVE4 

,! 9ABILITY TO MAKE POLITICS A REW>D+ EXP]I5CE IS P>T ( ! REASON :Y1 ,I ?9K1 ! RADICAL ,LEFT HAS BE5 UNSUCCESSFUL 9 ATTRACT+ L>GE NUMB]S ( PEOPLE4 ,H]E TOO WE >E BEG9N+ TO LE>N H[EV]4 ,I SEE ?AT MANY Y\NG MILITANTS TODAY >E RECOGNIZ+ ! IMPORTANCE ( BUILD+ COMMUNITY1 ( ORGANIZ+ ACTIVITIES ?AT >E PLEASURABLE1 ?AT BUILD TRU/ & AFFECTIVE RELATIONS1 LIKE EAT+ TOGE!R = 9/ANCE4 ,IT IS NOT AN ACCID5T ?AT ,9DIG5\S PEOPLES' MOVEM5TS 9 ,LAT9 ,AM]ICA GIVE SO MU* IMPORTANCE TO ! ORGANIZATION ( EV5TS LIKE ! FIE/AS4 

,NICK & C>LA3 ,WE WANT$ TO ASK Y\ SPECIFICALLY AB\T ! FEM9I/ MOVEM5T & :AT >E SOME ( ! WAYS ?AT FEM9I/S & O!R MOVEM5TS HAVE /RUGGL$ ) SAD MILITANCY 9 ! PA/4 ,WE'RE ?9K+ ( ,JO ,FREEMAN'S ESSAY ON 0TRA%+0 FROM ! '#gS1 :]E %E TALKS AB\T REAL T5D5CIES TO DE/ROY RELATION%IPS )9 ! FEM9I/ MOVEM5T4.<#a#h.> ,9 ONE ( ! 9T]VIEWS ?AT Y\'VE DONE1 Y\ M5TION 0TRUCUL5T =MS ( BEHAVIOR ?AT W]E TYPICAL ( ! MOVEM5T 9 ! '#fS0 & ?AT Y\ SEE NEW =MS ( K9DNESS & C>E EM]G+ ?AT MAYBE W]E ABS5T BACK !N4 ,SO WE WANT$ TO ASK Y\ AB\T H[ ?+S HAVE *ANG$ FROM Y\R P]SPECTIVE1 & :E!R Y\ SEE A CONNECTION BETWE5 TRA%+ & :AT IS N[ CALL$ CALL-\T CULTURE 9 CONTEMPOR>Y MOVEM5TS4 

,F$]ICI3 ,:5 ,I WROTE AB\T TRUCUL5T BEHAVIOR1 ,I WAS ?9K+ ( RELATIONS 9 ! MALE ,LEFT & MALE-DOM9AT$ ORGANIZATIONS1 :]E Y\ F\ND A LOT ( PROTAGONISM & PEACOCK-LIKE COMPETITION1 AS WELL AS A MANIPULATION ( WOM51 SEXUAL & O!RWISE4 ,!SE W]E AMONG ! FACTORS ?AT MOTIVAT$ ! RISE ( ! WOM5'S LIB]ATION MOVEM5T4 ,NOT ONLY WOM5'S DEM&S W]E PU%$ (F ! AG5DA1 BUT EV]YDAY RELATIONS W]E (T5 DEGRAD+ = !M4 

,A GOOD DESCRIPTION ( WOM5'S LIVES 9 MALE-DOM9AT$ ORGANIZATIONS IS ,M>GE ,PI]CY'S 0,! ,GR& ,COOLIE ,DAM10.<#a#h#a.> :]E %E P[]FULLY DESCRIBES ! MANY =MS ( SUBORD9ATION WOM5 SUFF]$ 9 MALE-DOM9AT$ GR\PS4 ,9 COMP>ISON1 ! ORGANIZATIONAL =MS ! WOM5'S MOVEM5T ADOPT$ W]E A MAJOR IMPROVEM5T4 ,POSSIBLY FEM9I/S MOV$ TOO F> 9 ! OPPOSITE DIRECTION4 ,I AM ?9K+ ( ,JO ,FREEMAN'S CRITIQUE ( ! 0TYRANNY ( /RUCTURELESSNESS40.<#a#h#b.> ,BUT %E'S EXCESSIVELY CRITICAL ( ! FEM9I/ MOVEM5T4 ,I DON'T AGREE ?AT FEM9I/S W]E ESPECIALLY PRONE TO TRA%+ EA* O!R4 ,! ATTACK ON LEAD]%IP1 = 9/ANCE1 ?\< IT (T5 WORK$ AGA9/ PEOPLE'S CAPACITY TO EXPRESS !MSELVES1 ALSO OP5$ ! WAY TO MORE EGALIT>IAN RELATIONS--LIKE 5SUR+ ?AT EV]YONE W\LD HAVE A *ANGE TO SPEAK 9 A MEET+4 ,! RESI/5CE AGA9/ WOM5 GETT+ CR$IT = AU?OR+ >TICLES OR SPEAK+ TOO MU* 9 PUBLIC WAS A LEGACY ( ! EXP]I5CES WE HAD MADE 9 MALE-DOM9AT$ ORGANIZATIONS4 ,9 TIME1 IT IS A FE> ?AT MO/ WOM5 LEFT BEH9D1 AS !Y FELT MORE CONFID5T 9 !IR [N P[]S4 

,SOME ( ! BITT]NESS ?AT Y\ F9D 9 ,JO ,FREEMAN COMES P]HAPS FROM ! FACT ?AT1 :5 WE JO9$ ! WOM5'S MOVEM5T1 MANY ( US BELIEV$ ?AT WE HAD REA*$ A SORT ( P>ADISE4 ,AS ,I WROTE 9 0,PUTT+ ,FEM9ISM ,ON ,ITS ,FEET10 :5 ,I BEGAN TO WORK ) O!R WOM5 ,I TRULY FELT ?AT ,I HAD F\ND MY HOME1 MY TRIBE4.<#a#h#c.> ,WE ?\<T ?AT WE HAD REA*$ A PLACE :]E EV]Y?+ W\LD BE H>MONI\S2 :]E !RE W\LD BE LOVE1 C>E1 RECIPROCITY1 EQUALITY1 COOP]ATION--SI/]HOOD AS WE CALL$ IT4 ,SO WE DIS-ACTIVAT$ \R CRITICAL ?9K+ & LEFT \R DEF5SES D[N4 ,UN=TUNATELY1 WE DIDN'T REA* P>ADISE1 & ! DISAPPO9TM5T WAS ESPECIALLY SEV]E BECAUSE WE ASSUM$ ?AT 9 ! WOM5'S MOVEM5T WE W\LD F9D HAPP9ESS1 OR AT LEA/ WE W\LD NOT 5C\NT] ! K9D ( JEAL\SIES1 P[] PLAYS1 & P[] RELATIONS WE HAD EXP]I5C$ ) M54 

,SP9OZA SPEAKS ( ,JOY AS COM+ FROM ,REASON & ,UND]/&+4 ,BUT WE =GOT ?AT ALL ( US BE> ON \R BODIES & M9DS ! M>KS ( LIFE 9 A CAPITALI/ SOCIETY4 ,WE =GOT ?AT WE CAME TO ! FEM9I/ MOVEM5T ) MANY SC>S & FE>S4 ,WE W\LD FEEL DEVALU$ & EASILY TAKE (F5SE IF WE ?\<T WE W]E NOT PROP]LY VALU$4 ,IT WAS A JEAL\SY ?AT CAME FROM POV]TY1 FROM FE> ( NOT BE+ GIV5 \R DUE4 ,?IS ALSO L$ SOME WOM5 TO BE POSSESSIVE AB\T :AT !Y HAD DONE1 :AT !Y HAD WRITT5 OR SAID4 

,!SE >E ALL ! CLASSICAL PROBLEMS & DI/ORTIONS ?AT LIFE 9 A CAPITALI/ SOCIETY CREATES4 ,OV] TIME Y\ LE>N TO ID5TIFY !M1 BUT AT FIR/1 MANY ( US W]E DEVA/AT$ BY !M4 ,= ME COP+ ) ?IS REALIZATION HAS BE5 AN IMPORTANT LE>N+ PROCESS4 ,BUT ,I HAVE ALSO SE5 WOM5 LEAV+ ! MOVEM5T BECAUSE !Y W]E SO DEEPLY HURT BY IT4 

,ON ! O!R H&1 ! FEM9I/ MOVEM5T1 BECAUSE IT /RESS$ ! IMPORTANCE ( %>+ EXP]I5CES & 5GAG+ 9 A COLLECTIVE EXAM9ATION ( \R EV]YDAY LIVES & PROBLEMS1 GAVE US IMPORTANT TOOLS TO DEAL ) ?IS SITUATION4 ,?R\< 0CONSCI\SNESS-RAIS+0 & ! REFUSAL TO SEP>ATE POLITICS FROM \R EV]YDAY REPRODUCTION IT CREAT$ =MS ( ORGANIZATION ?AT BUILT TRU/ & %[$ ?AT \R /R5G? WAS ROOT$ 9 \R MUTUAL SOLID>ITY4 

,I F\ND A VISION 9 ! WOM5'S MOVEM5T ?AT ALL[$ ME TO OV]COME SOME BITT] EXP]I5CES & OV] TIME 9SULAT$ ME FROM DISAPPO9TM5T4 ,I SEE POLITICS N[ AS A PROCESS ( TRANS=MATION2 A PROCESS BY :I* WE LE>N TO BETT] \RSELVES1 %$ \R POSSESSIV5ESS & DISC>D ! PETTY SQUABBLES ?AT SO MU* POISON \R LIVES4 

,I ?9K ?AT ?IS HAS BE5 A COLLECTIVE EXP]I5CE ?AT HAS LEFT A M>K ON O!R ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL4 ,IT SEEMS TO ME ?AT1 OV] ! LA/ TWO OR ?REE DECADES1 ! WOM5'S MOVEM5T HAS BE5 ! MO/ IMPORTANT 9FLU5CE ON ! ORGANIZATIONAL =MS ( MO/ RADICAL MOVEM5TS4 ,Y\ DON'T F9D TODAY1 ON A G5]AL LEVEL1 ! K9D ( BEHAVIOR ?AT WAS COMMON AMONG M5 ?IRTY OR =TY YE>S AGO1 NOT AT LEA/ AMONG ! NEW G5]ATIONS1 AL?\< !RE IS /ILL A GOOD AM\NT ( MA*ISMO >\ND4 ,BUT Y\ ALSO HAVE M5 :O G5U9ELY WANT TO BE FEM9I/1 & DEF9E !MSELVES AS ANTI-PATRI>*AL1 OR ORGANIZE AGA9/ MALE SUPREMACY--ALL UN?9KABLE /&S--) FEW EXCEPTIONS--9 ! '#fS4 

C>LA3 ,I HAVE ALL !SE QUE/IONS6 ,!RE SEEMS TO BE SOME K9D ( P>ADOX 9 ?IS3 ?AT JOY IS AB\T FEEL+S & RELATION%IPS1 BUT NOT JU/ AN 9DIVIDUAL FEEL+4 ,& :ILE WE WANT TO SPEAK TO ! P[] ( JOY1 IT CAN'T BE TURN$ 9TO A COMM&M5T1 & 9 FACT IT GETS LO/ :5 IT BECOMES SOME?+ IMPOS$ ON PEOPLE4 ,BUT IT ALSO CAN'T BE AB\T JU/ FEEL+ HAPPY OR FEEL+ GOOD1 OR BE+ OKAY ) ! WAY ?+S >E4 ,IT FEELS LIKE A LITTLE BIT ( A P>ADOX & ,I HAV5'T FIGUR$ \T H[ TO ?9K ?AT ?R\<4 ,A LOT ( MY ACTIVISM OV] ! YE>S HAS BE5 >\ND Y\? LIB]ATION & WORK+ ) *ILDR5 HAV+ MORE ( A SAY1 & GETT+ ?AT =M ( OPPRESSION 9TO ! DISCUSSION & 9TO ACTIVI/ SPACES1 & MY WORK WAS V]Y C5T]$ >\ND ?AT 9 A PUBLIC WAY4 ,I DON'T WANT TO REPLICATE 9DIVIDUALISM 9 LIB]ATION2 ,I WANT IT TO ALWAYS BE CONNECT$ TO ! L>G] SY/EMS & SOCIAL /RUGGLES4 ,BUT IT ALSO NE$S TO BE AB\T ?RIV+ RI<T N[1 BECAUSE !Y'RE KIDS6 ,& :5 ?+S W]E WORK+ WELL IT SEEM$ ?AT !RE WAS A LOT ( ROOM = FRE$OM & GR[? BUT IT WAS HELD & FELT COLLECTIVELY1 )\T A BUN* ( RULES OR NORMS4 ,!RE WAS HAPP9ESS1 SURE1 BUT ALSO DIFFICULTY & A WILL+NESS TO WORK ?R\< IT4 ,SO IT FEELS LIKE A CON/ANT P>ADOX TO WORK ?R\< JOY 444 

,F$]ICI3 ,I LIKE ! DI/9CTION BETWE5 HAPP9ESS & JOY4 ,LIKE Y\1 ,I LIKE JOY BECAUSE IT IS AN ACTIVE PASSION4 ,IT'S NOT A /ATIC /ATE ( BE+4 ,& IT'S NOT SATISFACTION ) ?+S AS !Y >E4 ,IT'S P>T ( FEEL+ P[]S & CAPACITIES GR[+ )9 Y\RSELF & 9 ! PEOPLE >\ND Y\4 ,IT'S A FEEL+1 A PASSION1 ?AT COMES FROM A PROCESS ( TRANS=MATION & GR[?4 ,IT DOES NOT MEAN ?AT Y\'RE SATISFI$ ) Y\R SITUATION4 ,IT MEANS1 AGA9 US+ ,SP9OZA1 ?AT Y\'RE ACTIVE 9 ACCORDANCE TO :AT Y\R UND]/&+ TELLS Y\ TO DO & :AT IS REQUIR$ BY ! SITUATION4 ,SO Y\ FEEL ?AT Y\ HAVE ! P[] TO *ANGE & FEEL Y\RSELF *ANG+ ?R\< :AT Y\'RE DO+1 TOGE!R ) O!R PEOPLE4 ,IT'S NOT A =M ( ACQUIESC5CE TO :AT EXI/S4 

,NICK & C>LA3 ,WE'VE F\ND Y\R CONCEPT ( ! ACCUMULATION ( DIVISIONS REALLY COMPELL+1 & ! WAYS Y\'RE C5T]+ H[ CAPITALISM IS ALWAYS US+ :ITE SUPREMACY1 PATRI>*Y1 COLONIZATION1 & O!R OPPRESSIVE HI]>*IES TO CREATE DIVISIONS & 5ABLE EXPLOITATION4 ,Y\R HI/ORICIZATION ( ?OSE DIVISIONS IS P[]FUL1 BECAUSE Y\ %[ H[ ! /ATE & CAPITALISM HAVE DEEP5$ & 5TR5*$ PATRI>*Y & RACISM AS A /RATEGY TO /OP RESI/ANCE & 5ABLE MORE 9T5SE EXPLOITATION4 ,& = US1 9 ?IS BOOK WE REALLY WANT TO C5T] ! IMPORTANCE ( REBUILD+ TRU/ & CONNECTION & SOLID>ITY ACROSS ?OSE DIVISIONS1 :ILE LEAV+ SPACE = DIFF]5CE & AUTONOMY4 ,ONE ( ! ?+S ?AT WE LIKE AB\T Y\R WORK IS ?AT Y\ DON'T JUMP TO A SIMPLE UNITY--?AT OV]COM+ !SE DIVISIONS DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A SIMPLE UNITY4 ,& SO WE WANT$ TO ASK Y\ TO TALK AB\T ?AT A LITTLE MORE4 ,IS !RE A DI/9CTION BETWE5 DIVISIONS1 :I* >E HI]>*ICAL & EXPLOITATIVE1 & DIFF]5CES1 :I* MI<T BE SOME?+ ELSE8 ,& CAN Y\ TALK AB\T ! POSITIVE HORIZON Y\ SEE = RESI/+ ! ACCUMULATION ( DIVISIONS :ILE W>D+ (F A K9D ( HOMOG5IZ+ UNITY8 

,F$]ICI3 ,YES1 ! DI/9CTION BETWE5 DIFF]5CES & DIVISIONS IS IMPORTANT4 ,:5 ,I SPEAK ( 0DIVISIONS0 ,I SPEAK ( DIFF]5CES ?AT C>RY HI]>*IES1 9EQUALITIES1 & HAVE A DIVISIVE P[]4 ,SO1 WE NE$ TO BE V]Y CLE> :5 WE SPEAK ( 0DIFF]5CES40 ,NOT ALL %\LD BE CELEBRAT$4 

,! LESSON WE LE>N$ 9 ! '#fS FROM ! WOM5'S MOVEM5T & ! ,BLACK ,P[] MOVEM5T IS ?AT ! MO/ EFFECTIVE WAY TO RESPOND TO UNEQUAL RELATIONS IS = ?OSE :O HAVE LESS SOCIAL P[] TO ORGANIZE AUTONOM\SLY4 ,?IS DOES NOT EXCLUDE ! POSSIBILITY ( COM+ TOGE!R = P>TICUL> /RUGGLES4 ,BUT 9 A SOCIETY DIVID$ ALONG RACIAL & G5D] L9ES1 UNITY IS A GOAL TO BE A*IEV$1 NOT SOME?+ ?AT CAN BE ASSUM$ TO ALREADY EXI/4 ,ORGANIZATIONAL AUTONOMY1 OR AT LEA/ ! CON/RUCTION ( AUTONOM\S SPACES )9 MIX$ ORGANIZATIONS--AS IT (T5 HAPP5S 9 ,LAT9 ,AM]ICA--IS A NECESS>Y CONDITION TO SUBV]T !SE DIVISIONS4 ,! WOM5'S MOVEM5T C\LD NOT HAVE DEVELOP$ ! UND]/&+ ( ! SITUATION ( WOM5 ?AT IT DEVELOP$ IF WOM5 HAD REMA9$ 9 MALE-DOM9AT$ ORGANIZATIONS4 ,IT WAS CRUCIAL = WOM5 TO MOVE AWAY FROM !SE ORGANIZATIONS TO EV5 BEG9 TO ?9K AB\T !IR PROBLEMS & %>E !IR ?\<TS ) EA* O!R4 

,Y\ CANNOT ?9K ( A PROBLEM1 GIVE VOICE TO IT1 %>E IT ) O!RS1 IF Y\ FE> ?AT Y\ WILL BE DISMISS$1 RIDICUL$1 OR TOLD ?AT IT IS NOT IMPORTANT4 ,MOREOV]1 H[ C\LD WOM5 HAVE SPOK5 ( SEXUALITY & !IR RELATIONS ) M5 9 FRONT ( !M8 ,& H[ C\LD ,BLACK MILITANTS SPEAK OP5LY ( !IR EXP]I5CE ( RACISM 9 FRONT ( :ITE PEOPLE8 

,AUTONOMY )9 MOVEM5TS ?AT >E WORK+ T[>D UNITY BUT >E TRAV]S$ BY P[] RELATIONS IS FUNDAM5TAL4 ,A CRUCIAL REALITY W\LD HAVE REMA9$ HIDD5 IF ! FEM9I/ MOVEM5T HAD NOT ORGANIZ$ AUTONOM\SLY & ?IS IS ALSO TRUE ( ! ,BLACK ,P[] MOVEM5T4 ,IMPORTANT >EAS & =MS ( EXPLOITATION W\LD HAVE CONT9U$ TO BE UNNOTIC$2 W\LD NOT HAVE BE5 ANALYZ$ & D5\NC$ & W\LD HAVE CONT9U$ TO BE REPRODUC$4 

,NICK & C>LA3 ,Y\ (T5 PO9T TO ,LAT9 ,AM]ICA & O!R PLACES :]E ! SOCIAL FABRIC IS MU* /RONG] 9 G5]AL1 & MOVEM5TS >E A LOT MORE CAPABLE ( REPRODUC+ !MSELVES & MEET+ !IR [N NE$S1 RELY+ LESS ON ! /ATE & CAPITAL4 ,! MA9T5ANCE ( COMMUNAL & COOP]ATIVE =MS ( LIFE SEEMS TO BE C5TRAL TO ! CAPACITY = SU/A9$ /RUGGLE & RESI/ANCE4 ,CAN Y\ ELABORATE ON ALL ?IS8 

,F$]ICI3 ,I W5T TO ,NIG]IA 9 ! '#hS & ONE ( ! BIG SURPRISES = ME WAS TO DISCOV] ?AT L>GE AM\NTS ( L& W]E /ILL MANAG$ COMMUNALLY4 ,?AT DOESN'T MEAN ?AT 9 COMMUNAL L& REGIMES RELATION%IPS >E NECESS>ILY EGALIT>IAN4 ,G5]ALLY M5 HAVE MORE P[] ?AN WOM52 BUT UNTIL REC5TLY !Y C\LD NOT SELL ! L&4 ,CLE>LY !SE COMMUNAL REGIMES HAVE GONE ?R\< MANY *ANGES1 ESPECIALLY BECAUSE ( COLONIAL DOM9ATION4 ,BUT ! FACT ?AT COMMUNAL [N]%IP HAS BE5 WIDESPREAD 9 ,AFRICA UNTIL AT LEA/ ! N9ETE5? C5TURY &1 9 SOME REGIONS1 CONT9UES EV5 TODAY1 HAS HAD A DEEP IMPACT ON RELATION%IPS & PEOPLE1 :I* IS :Y ,I BELIEVE SO MU* VIOL5CE HAS BE5 & IS NECESS>Y TO PRIVATIZE ! L& & ! CONT95T'S IMM5SE NATURAL RES\RCES4 

,IT'S ! SAME ?+ 9 ,LAT9 ,AM]ICA4 ,9 ,MEXICO1 9 ! #a#i#cS1 DUR+ ! GOV]NM5T ( ,LAZ>O ,C>D5AS1 SOME L& WAS RETURN$ TO 9DIG5\S COMMUNITIES ?AT HAD BE5 EXPROPRIAT$ BY COLONIAL 9VASION4 ,TODAY ! ,MEXICAN GOV]NM5T IS TRY+ TO RE-PRIVATIZE EV]Y?+1 BUT UNTIL REC5TLY AT LEA/ ?IRTY P]C5T ( ! C\NTRY'S L& WAS /ILL HELD COMMUNALLY4 

,AGA91 ?IS IS NOT A GU>ANTEE ( EGALIT>IAN RELATIONS4 ,WOM5 9 !SE COMMUNITIES >E COM+ =W>D1 CRITICIZ+ ! PATRI>*AL RELATIONS (T5 PREVAIL+ )9 !M4 ,A GOOD EXAMPLE >E ! ,ZAPATI/A WOM54 ,AS Y\ CAN READ 9 ,HIL>Y ,KLE9'S BOOK ,COMPAN]AS1 MANY ( ! TRANS=MATIONS ?AT HAVE TAK5 PLACE 9 ,ZAPATI/A COMMUNITIES1 LIKE ! APPLICATION ( ! ,REVOLUTION>Y ,LAW ,ON ,WOM51 HAVE BE5 ! PRODUCT ( ! /RUGGLE ?AT WOM5 HAVE MADE AGA9/ PATRI>*ALISM4 ,BUT COMMUNAL L& REGIMES GU>ANTEE ! REPRODUCTION ( ! COMMUNITIES ?AT LIVE ON ! L&4 

,TODAY MANY ( !SE COMMUNITIES >E FAC+ DISPOSSESSION BECAUSE ( L& PRIVATIZATION1 DE=E/ATION1 ! LOSS ( WAT] TO IRRIGATE !IR MILPAS4 ,BUT :5 !Y >E =C$ \T & COME TO ! CITIES1 !Y /ILL ACT AS A COLLECTIVITY4 ,!Y TAKE OV] L& ?\< COLLECTIVE ACTION1 !Y BUILD 5CAMPM5TS1 & TAKE DECISION COLLECTIVELY4 ,AS A RESULT1 9 MANY CITIES ( ,LAT9 ,AM]ICA1 NEW COMMUNITIES HAVE =M$ ?AT FROM !IR BEG9N+ W]E BUILT COLLECTIVELY4 ,IT APPE>S ?AT ! N>COS N[ TRY TO 9FILTRATE SOME ( !SE COMMUNITIES4 ,BUT :5 PEOPLE TAKE OV] ! L& & COOP]ATE TO BUILD !IR H\SES1 TO BUILD ! /REETS1 TO FI<T ) ! GOV]NM5T TO CONNECT ! ELECTRICITY & GET WAT] PIPES1 !RE IS A GOOD *ANCE ?AT ?AT !Y WILL BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO ?IS ?REAT1 & Y\ CAN SEE ?AT !RE'S A NEW SOCIAL REALITY EM]G+ 9 !SE COMMUNITIES4 

,AS ,RAUL ,ZIBE*I (T5 PO9TS \T1 SOME?+ NEW IS EM]G+ 9 !SE COMMUNITIES BECAUSE !Y HAVE HAD TO 9V5T NEW =MS ( LIFE1 )\T ANY PREEXI/+ MODEL1 & POLITICIZE ! EV]YDAY PROCESS ( !IR REPRODUCTION4.<#a#h#d.> ,:5 Y\ WORK TOGE!R1 BUILD+ H\SES1 BUILD+ /REETS1 BUILD+ /RUCTURES ?AT PROVIDE SOME IMM$IATE =M ( HEAL?C>E--JU/ TO GIVE SOME EXAMPLES--Y\ >E MAK+ LIFE-*OICES1 AS ALL ( !M COME ) A HI< CO/4 ,Y\ MU/ FI<T ! /ATE1 FI<T ! POLICE1 ! LOCAL AU?ORITIES4 ,SO Y\ HAVE TO DEVELOP TI<T RELATIONS ) EA* O!R & ALWAYS MEASURE ! VALUE ( ALL ?+S4 

,NICK & C>LA3 ,FOLL[+ UP ON ?AT1 P>T ( :AT WE >E CURI\S AB\T IS H[ WE CAN LE>N FROM PLACES :]E1 9 G5]AL1 ! DEGREE ( POLITICIZATION IS HI<] & ! SOCIAL FABRIC IS MU* /RONG]4 ,:AT K9D ( LESSONS CAN ,NOR? ,AM]ICAN-BAS$ ORGANIZ]S DRAW FROM ?IS = ORGANIZ+ 9 \R [N COMMUNITIES8 ,H[ CAN PEOPLE 9 ! GLOBAL ,NOR? LE>N FROM ALL ( ! VIBRANT /RUGGLES & =MS ( LIFE 9 ,LAT9 ,AM]ICA :ILE BE+ ATT5TIVE TO DIFF]5CES 9 CONTEXT AT ! SAME TIME8 

,F$]ICI3 ,?IS IS A DISCUSSION ?AT IS TAK+ PLACE 9 ,NEW ,YORK4 ,PEOPLE 9 ! SOCIAL MOVEM5TS :O >E 9SPIR$ BY ! /RUGGLES 9 ,LAT9 ,AM]ICA >E N[ ?9K+ 9 T]MS ( T]RITORIAL POLITICS1 ! T]RITORY BE+ A PLACE :]E Y\ HAVE SOME =M ( COLLECTIVE CONTROL & EV5 SELF-GOV]NM5T4 ,CLE>LY1 ! SITUATION 9 ! ,U,S IS PR(\NDLY DIFF]5T4 ,BUT ?9K+ 9 T]MS ( T]RITORY 5ABLES US TO SEE ?AT ! NEI<BORHOODS 9 :I* WE LIVE >E NOT NEUTRAL SPACES1 !Y >E NOT JU/ CONGLOM]ATES ( H\SES & PEOPLE4 ,!Y >E V]Y POLITICALLY /RUCTUR$4 ,9 ,NEW ,YORK1 = 9/ANCE1 S9CE ! '#gS1 !RE'S BE5 A PROCESS ( 0SPATIAL DE-CONC5TRATION10 :]EBY EV]Y NEI<BORHOOD HAS BE5 /UDI$ BY LOCAL & F$]AL AU?ORITIES TO FIGURE \T H[ TO BETT] CONTROL ! MOVEM5T ( PEOPLE & GU>ANTEE ?AT ! WRONG PEOPLE DO NOT GO TO C]TA9 NEI<BORHOODS4 ,SUBWAY L9ES1 BUS L9ES1 PLAYGR\NDS HAVE BE5 RE/RUCTUR$1 TO MAKE SURE ?AT POOR PEOPLE CANNOT EASILY GO TO PLACES ( WEAL?4 

,SO LOOK+ AT \R NEI<BORHOODS AS 0T]RITORIES0 9 ?IS CASE MEANS RECOGNIZ+ ?OSE FACTORS ( T5SION1 ( CRISIS1 ?OSE P[] RELATIONS ?AT TRAV]SE !M ?AT DIVIDE PEOPLE BUT CAN ALSO BR+ !M TOGE!R4 ,! SOCIAL C5T]S ?AT HAVE OP5$ 9 REC5T YE>S 9 ,NEW ,YORK >E ATTEMPT+ TO DO ?AT1 TRY+ TO 5GAGE 9 PRACTICES ?AT CREATE 0T]RITORY10 ?AT IS1 CREATE =MS ( AGGREGATION4 ,BUILD+ MORE COLLECTIVE =MS ( REPRODUCTION IS A KEY ASPECT ( ?IS PROCESS4 ,IT IS 9DISP5SABLE IF WE WANT TO CREATE 0COMMUNITIES ( RESI/ANCE10 SPACES :]E PEOPLE >E CONNECT$ & CAN 5GAGE 9 SOME COLLECTIVE DECISION-MAK+4 

,NICK & C>LA3 ,MAYBE ONE ?+ TO FOLL[ UP ON ?IS4 ,9 ?AT QUE/ION Y\ TALK$ AB\T ! =GOTT5 IMPACTS ( REALLY SUBTLE ?+S LIKE >*ITECTURE1 PLANN+1 & 9 ,CALIBAN & ! ,WIT* Y\ TALK AB\T ! =GOTT5 IMPACTS ( ! WIT* HUNTS1 & H[ ?OSE IMPACTS >E /ILL ) US TODAY4 ,>E !RE UND]APPRECIAT$ MOVEM5TS ( JOY & TRANS=MATION :]E WE HAV5'T FULLY APPRECIAT$ ! IMPACTS8 

,F$]ICI3 ,!RE >E SO MANY MOVEM5TS4 ,! ,SUFFRAGETTE MOVEM5T1 = EXAMPLE1 IS ALWAYS PORTRAY$ AS A B\RGEOIS MOVEM5T1 BUT ,I'M DISCOV]+ ?AT IT HAD A WORK+-CLASS DIM5SION AS WELL4 ,BUT RA!R ?AN ?9K+ ( P>TICUL> MOVEM5TS1 :AT MO/ MATT]S IS DISCOV]+ & RECREAT+ ! COLLECTIVE MEMORY ( PA/ /RUGGLES4 ,9 ! ,U,S !RE IS A SY/EMATIC ATTEMPT TO DE/ROY ?IS MEMORY & N[ ?IS IS EXT5D+ ACROSS ! WORLD1 ) ! DE/RUCTION ( ! MA9 HI/ORICAL C5T]S ( ! ,MIDDLE ,EA/--A =M ( DISPOSSESSION ?AT HAS MAJOR CONSEQU5CES & YET IS R>ELY DISCUSS$4 ,REVIV+ ! MEMORY ( ! /RUGGLES ( ! PA/ MAKES US FEEL P>T ( SOME?+ L>G] ?AN \R 9DIVIDUAL LIVES & 9 ?IS WAY IT GIVES A NEW MEAN+ TO :AT WE >E DO+ & GIVES US C\RAGE1 BECAUSE IT MAKES US LESS AFRAID ( :AT CAN HAPP5 TO US 9DIVIDUALLY4 

,NICK & C>LA3 ,ANO!R ?+ ?AT WE WANT$ TO TALK TO Y\ AB\T IS ! /YLE & TONE ( 9TELLECTUAL 5GAGEM5T4 ,Y\R /YLE IS SO G5]\S1 & Y\ HAVE A REALLY MILITANT CRITIQUE ( CAPITALISM1 BUT Y\'RE ALWAYS PO9T+ TO EXAMPLES 9 A RANGE ( DIFF]5T MOVEM5TS & Y\ SEEM TO RES]VE REALLY PO9T$ ATTACKS = L>GE DE/RUCTIVE 9/ITUTIONS LIKE ! ,WORLD ,BANK4 ,IT SEEMS TO US ?AT ?IS DIFF]S FROM A LOT ( RADICAL CRITIQUE TODAY1 :I* CAN BE V]Y FOCUS$ ON EXPOS+ COMPLICITIES OR LIMITATIONS1 TALK+ AB\T ! WAYS ?AT MOVEM5TS >E LACK+1 ?AT !Y HAV5'T YET REA*$ ?IS OR ?AT1 AS WELL AS T>GET+ 9DIVIDUALS4 ,SO WE WANT$ TO ASK3 ,IS ?IS /YLE SOME?+ ?AT Y\'VE CULTIVAT$ & ?AT Y\'RE 9T5TIONAL AB\T1 & MAYBE MORE G5]ALLY1 CAN Y\ TALK AB\T ! POT5TIAL ( !ORY 9 9TELLECTUAL WORK TODAY1 & :AT JOYFUL !ORY MI<T LOOK LIKE8 ,:AT MAKES !ORY 5ABL+ & TRANS=MATIVE1 & :AT GETS 9 ! WAY ( ?AT8 

,F$]ICI3 ,IT'S P>TIALLY A CONSEQU5CE ( GR[+ OLD4 ,Y\ UND]/& ?+S ?AT :5 Y\'RE Y\NG] Y\ DIDN'T SEE4 ,ONE ?+ ?AT ,I'VE LE>N$ IS TO BE MORE HUMBLE & TO HOLD MY JUDGM5T ( PEOPLE UNTIL ,I KN[ !M BEYOND :AT ,I CAN MAKE \T FROM :AT !Y SAY1 REALIZ+ ?AT PEOPLE (T5 SAY FOOLI% ?+S ?AT !Y DO NOT REALLY BELIEVE OR HAVE NOT S]I\SLY ?\<T AB\T4 

,IT ALSO COMES FROM RECOGNIZ+ ?AT WE CAN *ANGE1 :I* MEANS ?AT WE %\LD /RESS \R POT5TIAL RA!R ?AN \R LIMITS4 ,ONE ( ! MO/ AMAZ+ EXP]I5CES 9 ! WOM5'S MOVEM5T WAS TO SEE H[ MU* WE C\LD GR[1 LE>N+ TO SPEAK 9 PUBLIC1 WRITE POETRY1 MAKE BEAUTIFUL PO/]S4 ,ALL ?IS HAS GIV5 ME A /RONG DI/A/E = ! IMPULSE TO SQUA% EV]Y?+ AT ! FIR/ SIGN ?AT SOME?+ IS NOT RI<T4 

,I'VE MADE IT A PR9CIPLE NOT TO 9DULGE 9 SPEE* ?AT IS DE/RUCTIVE4 ,/RIV+ TO SPEAK CLE>LY1 NOT TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE FOOLS BECAUSE !Y DON'T UND]/& :AT ,I SAY1 IS A GOOD P>T ( IT4 ,?AT'S ALSO SOME?+ ,I'VE TAK5 FROM ! WOM5'S MOVEM5T4 ,SO MANY TIMES WE HAD FELT HUMILIAT$1 BE+ 9 SITUATIONS :]E WE DIDN'T UND]/& :AT M5 HAD SAID1 & DIDN'T HAVE ! C\RAGE TO ASK :AT !Y MEANT4 ,I DON'T WANT TO MAKE O!R PEOPLE EV] FEEL ?IS WAY4 

,NICK & C>LA3 ,Y\'RE REALLY GOOD AT ?AT6 ,ONE ( ! ?+S WE W]E TALK+ AB\T ?IS MORN+ IS ! QUE/ION ( ID5TITY & A LOT ( ! CRITIQUES ( SAD MILITANCY ?AT WE HAVE READ REALLY MAKE ID5TITY 9TO ! PROBLEM QUITE A BIT MORE ?AN WE W\LD WANT TO4 ,WE'RE TRY+ TO ?9K ?R\< H[ TO SPEAK TO ! P[] ( ID5TITY & EXP]I5CE :ILE ALSO PO9T+ TO P[] ( TRANS=MATION & WORK+ ACROSS DIFF]5CE1 & H[ ! TWO ( ?OSE >5'T ANTI!TICAL 9 ! WAY !Y'RE SOMETIMES SET UP1 ?AT !Y'RE CRUCIAL = EA* O!R4 

,F$]ICI3 ,I ?9K ! CRITIQUE ( ID5TITY HAS TAK5 ON DIM5SIONS ?AT >E NOT ALWAYS JU/IFI$4 ,:AT PEOPLE (T5 CRITICIZE AS ID5TITY IS ACTUALLY ! POSITION ?AT A P]SON HAS HAD 9 ! CAPITALI/ ORGANIZATION ( WORK4 ,= EXAMPLE1 IS BE+ A H\SEWIFE AN ID5TITY8 ,YES1 IT'S AN ID5TITY1 BUT IT IS ALSO A P>TICUL> PLACE 9 ! CAPITALI/ ORGANIZATION ( WORK1 LIKE BE+ A M9]1 IT'S ALSO A P>TICUL> =M ( EXPLOITATION4 ,ID5TITY IS (T5 US$ 9 A WAY ?AT HIDES ?AT EXPLOITATION4 ,?AT'S :5 IT BECOMES PROBLEMATIC4 

,MOREOV]1 BEH9D ID5TITY !RE'S ALSO A HI/ORY ( /RUGGLE & RESI/ANCE TO EXPLOITATION4 ,ID5TITY CAN BE A SIGNPO/ = A :OLE HI/ORY ( /RUGGLE4 ,:5 ,I SAY ,I AM A FEM9I/1 = 9/ANCE1 ,I CONSCI\SLY CONNECT MYSELF TO HI/ORY ( /RUGGLE ?AT WOM5 HAVE MADE4 ,ID5TITIES CAN BE MUTABLE AS WELL4 0,WOMAN10 = EXAMPLE1 IS NOT A FIX$ ID5TITY4 ,! CONCEPT ( WOMAN HAS UND]GONE A TREM5D\S *ANGE OV] ! LA/ FIFTY YE>S4 

,! PROBLEM HAS BE5 ! W$D+ ( 0ID5TITY0 ) ! POLITICS ( RI<TS1 AS :5 WE SPEAK ( WOM5'S RI<TS1 ,9DIG5\S PEOPLES' RI<TS1 AS IF EA* GR\P W]E 5TITL$ TO A PACKET ( 5TITLEM5TS1 BUT 9 ISOLATION FROM EA* O!R1 SO ?AT WE LOSE SI<T ( ! COMMONALITIES & ! POSSIBILITY ( A COMMON /RUGGLE4 

,NICK & C>LA3 ,?AT'S REALLY HELPFUL4 ,\R LA/ QUE/ION IS AB\T HOPE4 ,SP9OZA HIMSELF IS PRETTY W>Y ( HOPE1 BUT HE SEES IT AS QUITE FUTURE-ORI5T$3 TO HOPE IS ALSO TO FE>1 BECAUSE Y\'RE ATTA*$ TO A FUTURE OBJECT OR \TCOME4 ,MORE G5]ALLY HOPE IS (T5 EQUAT$ ) A NAIVE OPTIMISM3 IT CAN BECOME FIXAT$ ON A C]TA9 \TCOME4 ,BUT 9 ONE ( Y\R 9T]VIEWS1.<#a#h#e.> Y\ TALK$ AB\T IT AS SOME?+ ?AT'S A LOT MORE OP5-5D$4 ,IT'S MORE ! S5SE ?AT WE CAN DO SOME?+4 ,DO Y\ ?9K ?AT HOPE IS NECESS>ILY ATTA*$ TO A VISION ( ! FUTURE8 

,F$]ICI3 ,HOPE IS POSITIVE IF IT IS AN ACTIVE PASSION2 BUT ONLY IF IT DOES NOT REPLACE ! WORK NECESS>Y TO MAKE \R ACTION SUCCESSFUL4 

,SILVIA ,F$]ICI IS AN ,ITALIAN ACTIVI/ & AU?OR ( MANY WORKS1 9CLUD+ ,CALIBAN & ! ,WIT* & ,REVOLUTION AT ,PO9T ,Z]O3 ,H\SEWORK1 ,REPRODUCTION1 & ,FEM9I/ ,/RUGGLE4 ,%E WAS CO-F\ND] ( ! ,9T]NATIONAL ,FEM9I/ ,COLLECTIVE & ORGANIZ] ) ! ,WAGES = ,H\SEWORK ,CAMPAIGN 9 ! '#gS4 ,%E WAS A MEMB] ( ! ,MIDNI<T ,NOTES ,COLLECTIVE4 

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