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,PEOPLE 3 

,AU?OR 3 ,LEO ,TOL/OY 

,TRANSLATOR 3 ,CON/ANCE ,CL>A ,G>NETT 

,TEXT 3 

,PE/SOV LIK$ ?RA%+ AN >GUM5T \T TO ! 5D1 & WAS NOT 
SATISFI$ ) ,S]GEY ,IVANOVIT*'S WORDS1 ESPECIALLY AS HE FELT 
! 9JU/ICE ( HIS VIEW4 

0,I DID NOT MEAN10 HE SAID OV] ! S\P1 ADDRESS+ ,ALEXEY 
,ALEX&ROVIT*1 0M]E D5SITY ( POPULATION ALONE1 BUT 9 
CONJUNCTION ) FUNDAM5TAL IDEAS1 & NOT BY MEANS ( 
PR9CIPLES40 

0,IT SEEMS TO ME10 ,ALEXEY ,ALEX&ROVIT* SAID LANGUIDLY1 & ) 
NO HA/E1 0?AT ?AT'S ! SAME ?+4 ,9 MY OP9ION1 9FLU5CE 
OV] ANO!R PEOPLE IS ONLY POSSIBLE TO ! PEOPLE :I* HAS ! 
HI<] DEVELOPM5T1 :I*4440 

0,BUT ?AT'S JU/ ! QUE/ION10 ,PE/SOV BROKE 9 9 HIS BASS4 

,HE WAS ALWAYS 9 A HURRY TO SPEAK1 & SEEM$ ALWAYS TO PUT HIS 
:OLE S\L 9TO :AT HE WAS SAY+4 0,9 :AT >E WE TO MAKE 
HI<] DEVELOPM5T CONSI/8 ,! ,5GLI%1 ! ,FR5*1 ! 
,G]MANS1 :I* IS AT ! HI<E/ /AGE ( DEVELOPM5T8 ,:I* ( 
!M WILL NATIONALIZE ! O!R8 ,WE SEE ! ,RH9E PROV9CES HAVE 
BE5 TURN$ ,FR5*1 BUT ! ,G]MANS >E NOT AT A L[] /AGE60 HE 
%\T$4 0,!RE IS ANO!R LAW AT WORK !RE40 

0,I FANCY ?AT ! GREAT] 9FLU5CE IS ALWAYS ON ! SIDE ( TRUE 
CIVILIZATION10 SAID ,ALEXEY ,ALEX&ROVIT*1 SLI<TLY LIFT+ HIS 
EYEBR[S4 

0,BUT :AT >E WE TO LAY D[N AS ! \TW>D SIGNS ( TRUE 
CIVILIZATION80 SAID ,PE/SOV4 

0,I IMAG9E SU* SIGNS >E G5]ALLY V]Y WELL KN[N10 SAID ,ALEXEY 
,ALEX&ROVIT*4 

0,BUT >E !Y FULLY KN[N80 ,S]GEY ,IVANOVIT* PUT 9 ) A 
SUBTLE SMILE4 0,IT IS ! ACCEPT$ VIEW N[ ?AT REAL CULTURE 
MU/ BE PURELY CLASSICAL2 BUT WE SEE MO/ 9T5SE DISPUTES ON 
EA* SIDE ( ! QUE/ION1 & !RE IS NO D5Y+ ?AT ! 
OPPOSITE CAMP HAS /RONG PO9TS 9 ITS FAVOR40 

0,Y\ >E = CLASSICS1 ,S]GEY ,IVANOVIT*4 ,WILL Y\ TAKE R$ 
W9E80 SAID ,/EPAN ,>KADYEVIT*4 

0,I AM NOT EXPRESS+ MY [N OP9ION ( EI!R =M ( CULTURE10 
,S]GEY ,IVANOVIT* SAID1 HOLD+ \T HIS GLASS ) A SMILE ( 
CONDESC5SION1 AS TO A *ILD4 0,I ONLY SAY ?AT BO? SIDES HAVE 
/RONG >GUM5TS TO SUPPORT !M10 HE W5T ON1 ADDRESS+ ,ALEXEY 
,ALEX&ROVIT*4 0,MY SYMPA?IES >E CLASSICAL FROM $UCATION1 BUT 
9 ?IS DISCUSSION ,I AM P]SONALLY UNABLE TO >RIVE AT A 
CONCLUSION4 ,I SEE NO DI/9CT GR\NDS = CLASSICAL /UDIES 
BE+ GIV5 A PREEM95CE OV] SCI5TIFIC /UDIES40 

0,! NATURAL SCI5CES HAVE JU/ AS GREAT AN $UCATIONAL VALUE10 
PUT 9 ,PE/SOV4 0,TAKE A/RONOMY1 TAKE BOTANY1 OR ZOOLOGY ) 
ITS SY/EM ( G5]AL PR9CIPLES40 

0,I CANNOT QUITE AGREE ) ?AT10 RESPOND$ ,ALEXEY ,ALEX&ROVIT* 
0,IT SEEMS TO ME ?AT ONE MU/ ADMIT ?AT ! V]Y PROCESS ( 
/UDY+ ! =MS ( LANGUAGE HAS A PECULI>LY FAVORABLE 
9FLU5CE ON 9TELLECTUAL DEVELOPM5T4 ,MOREOV]1 IT CANNOT BE 
D5I$ ?AT ! 9FLU5CE ( ! CLASSICAL AU?ORS IS 9 ! 
HI<E/ DEGREE MORAL1 :ILE1 UN=TUNATELY1 ) ! /UDY ( ! 
NATURAL SCI5CES >E ASSOCIAT$ ! FALSE & NOXI\S DOCTR9ES 
:I* >E ! CURSE ( \R DAY40 

,S]GEY ,IVANOVIT* W\LD HAVE SAID SOME?+1 BUT ,PE/SOV 
9T]RUPT$ HIM 9 HIS RI* BASS4 ,HE BEGAN W>MLY CONTE/+ ! 
JU/ICE ( ?IS VIEW4 ,S]GEY ,IVANOVIT* WAIT$ S]5ELY TO 
SPEAK1 OBVI\SLY ) A CONV9C+ REPLY READY4 

0,BUT10 SAID ,S]GEY ,IVANOVIT*1 SMIL+ SUBTLY1 & ADDRESS+ 
,K>591 0,ONE MU/ ALL[ ?AT TO WEI< ALL ! ADVANTAGES & 
DISADVANTAGES ( CLASSICAL & SCI5TIFIC /UDIES IS A DIFFICULT 
TASK1 & ! QUE/ION :I* =M ( $UCATION WAS TO BE 
PREF]R$ W\LD NOT HAVE BE5 SO QUICKLY & CONCLUSIVELY DECID$ 
IF !RE HAD NOT BE5 9 FAVOR ( CLASSICAL $UCATION1 AS Y\ 
EXPRESS$ IT JU/ N[1 ITS MORAL--DISONS LE MOT--ANTI-NIHILI/ 
9FLU5CE40 

0,UND\BT$LY40 

0,IF IT HAD NOT BE5 = ! DI/9CTIVE PROP]TY ( 
ANTI-NIHILI/IC 9FLU5CE ON ! SIDE ( CLASSICAL /UDIES1 WE 
%\LD HAVE CONSID]$ ! SUBJECT MORE1 HAVE WEI<$ ! 
>GUM5TS ON BO? SIDES10 SAID ,S]GEY ,IVANOVIT* ) A SUBTLE 
SMILE1 0WE %\LD HAVE GIV5 ELB[-ROOM TO BO? T5D5CIES4 ,BUT 
N[ WE KN[ ?AT !SE LITTLE PILLS ( CLASSICAL LE>N+ POSSESS 
! M$IC9AL PROP]TY ( ANTI-NIHILISM1 & WE BOLDLY PRESCRIBE 
!M TO \R PATI5TS4444 ,BUT :AT IF !Y HAD NO SU* M$IC9AL 
PROP]TY80 HE W\ND UP HUMOR\SLY4 

,AT ,S]GEY ,IVANOVIT*'S LITTLE PILLS1 EV]YONE LAU<$2 ,TUROVTS9 
9 ESPECIAL RO>$ L\DLY & JOVIALLY1 GLAD AT LA/ TO HAVE 
F\ND SOME?+ TO LAU< AT1 ALL HE EV] LOOK$ = 9 LI/5+ 
TO CONV]SATION4 

,/EPAN ,>KADYEVIT* HAD NOT MADE A MI/AKE 9 9VIT+ ,PE/SOV4 
,) ,PE/SOV 9TELLECTUAL CONV]SATION NEV] FLAGG$ = AN 
9/ANT4 ,DIRECTLY ,S]GEY ,IVANOVIT* HAD CONCLUD$ ! 
CONV]SATION ) HIS JE/1 ,PE/SOV PROMPTLY />T$ A NEW ONE4 

0,I CAN'T AGREE EV510 SAID HE1 0?AT ! GOV]NM5T HAD ?AT AIM4 
,! GOV]NM5T OBVI\SLY IS GUID$ BY AB/RACT CONSID]ATIONS1 
& REMA9S 9DIFF]5T TO ! 9FLU5CE ITS MEASURES MAY 
EX]CISE4 ,! $UCATION ( WOM51 = 9/ANCE1 W\LD NATURALLY 
BE REG>D$ AS LIKELY TO BE H>MFUL1 BUT ! GOV]NM5T OP5S 
S*OOLS & UNIV]SITIES = WOM540 

,& ! CONV]SATION AT ONCE PASS$ TO ! NEW SUBJECT ( ! 
$UCATION ( WOM54 

,ALEXEY ,ALEX&ROVIT* EXPRESS$ ! IDEA ?AT ! $UCATION ( 
WOM5 IS APT TO BE CONF\ND$ ) ! EMANCIPATION ( WOM51 & 
?AT IT IS ONLY SO ?AT IT CAN BE CONSID]$ DANG]\S4 

0,I CONSID]1 ON ! CONTR>Y1 ?AT ! TWO QUE/IONS >E 
9SEP>ABLY CONNECT$ TOGE!R10 SAID ,PE/SOV2 0IT IS A VICI\S 
CIRCLE4 ,WOMAN IS DEPRIV$ ( RI<TS FROM LACK ( $UCATION1 & 
! LACK ( $UCATION RESULTS FROM ! ABS5CE ( RI<TS4 ,WE 
MU/ NOT =GET ?AT ! SUBJECTION ( WOM5 IS SO COMPLETE1 & 
DATES FROM SU* AGES BACK ?AT WE >E (T5 UNWILL+ TO 
RECOGNIZE ! GULF ?AT SEP>ATES !M FROM US10 SAID HE4 

0,Y\ SAID RI<TS10 SAID ,S]GEY ,IVANOVIT*1 WAIT+ TILL ,PE/SOV 
HAD F9I%$1 0MEAN+ ! RI<T ( SITT+ ON JURIES1 ( VOT+1 
( PRESID+ AT (FICIAL MEET+S1 ! RI<T ( 5T]+ ! 
CIVIL S]VICE1 ( SITT+ 9 P>LIAM5T4440 

0,UND\BT$LY40 

0,BUT IF WOM51 AS A R>E EXCEPTION1 CAN OCCUPY SU* POSITIONS1 IT 
SEEMS TO ME Y\ >E WRONG 9 US+ ! EXPRESSION 'RI<TS4' ,IT 
W\LD BE MORE CORRECT TO SAY DUTIES4 ,EV]Y MAN WILL AGREE ?AT 
9 DO+ ! DUTY ( A JURYMAN1 A WITNESS1 A TELEGRAPH CL]K1 WE 
FEEL WE >E P]=M+ DUTIES4 ,& !RE=E IT W\LD BE CORRECT 
TO SAY ?AT WOM5 >E SEEK+ DUTIES1 & QUITE LEGITIMATELY4 
,& ONE CAN BUT SYMPA?IZE ) ?IS DESIRE TO ASSI/ 9 ! 
G5]AL LABOR ( MAN40 

0,QUITE SO10 ,ALEXEY ,ALEX&ROVIT* ASS5T$4 0,! QUE/ION1 ,I 
IMAG9E1 IS SIMPLY :E!R !Y >E FITT$ = SU* DUTIES40 

0,!Y WILL MO/ LIKELY BE P]FECTLY FITT$10 SAID ,/EPAN 
,>KADYEVIT*1 0:5 $UCATION HAS BECOME G5]AL AMONG !M4 ,WE 
SEE ?IS4440 

0,H[ AB\T ! PROV]B80 SAID ! PR9CE1 :O HAD A LONG :ILE 
BE5 9T5T ON ! CONV]SATION1 HIS LITTLE COMICAL EYES 
TW9KL+4 0,I CAN SAY IT BE=E MY DAU<T]3 H] HAIR IS LONG1 
BECAUSE H] WIT IS4440 

0,JU/ :AT !Y ?\<T ( ! NEGROES BE=E !IR 
EMANCIPATION60 SAID ,PE/SOV ANGRILY4 

0,:AT SEEMS /RANGE TO ME IS ?AT WOM5 %\LD SEEK FRE% 
DUTIES10 SAID ,S]GEY ,IVANOVIT*1 0:ILE WE SEE1 UNHAPPILY1 ?AT 
M5 USUALLY TRY TO AVOID !M40 

0,DUTIES >E B\ND UP ) RI<TS--P[]1 MONEY1 HONOR2 ?OSE >E 
:AT WOM5 >E SEEK+10 SAID ,PE/SOV4 

0,JU/ AS ?\< ,I %\LD SEEK ! RI<T TO BE A WET-NURSE & 
FEEL 9JUR$ BECAUSE WOM5 >E PAID = ! WORK1 :ILE NO ONE 
WILL TAKE ME10 SAID ! OLD PR9CE4 

,TUROVTS9 EXPLOD$ 9 A L\D RO> ( LAU<T] & ,S]GEY 
,IVANOVIT* REGRETT$ ?AT HE HAD NOT MADE ?IS COMP>ISON4 ,EV5 
,ALEXEY ,ALEX&ROVIT* SMIL$4 

0,YES1 BUT A MAN CAN'T NURSE A BABY10 SAID ,PE/SOV1 0:ILE A 
WOMAN4440 

0,NO1 !RE WAS AN ,5GLI%MAN :O DID SUCKLE HIS BABY ON BO>D 
%IP10 SAID ! OLD PR9CE1 FEEL+ ?IS FRE$OM 9 CONV]SATION 
P]MISSIBLE BE=E HIS [N DAU<T]S4 

0,!RE >E AS MANY SU* ,5GLI%M5 AS !RE W\LD BE WOM5 
(FICIALS10 SAID ,S]GEY ,IVANOVIT*4 

0,YES1 BUT :AT IS A GIRL TO DO :O HAS NO FAMILY80 PUT 9 ,/EPAN 
,>KADYEVIT*1 ?9K+ ( ,MA%A ,T*IBISOVA1 :OM HE HAD HAD 9 
HIS M9D ALL ALONG1 9 SYMPA?IZ+ ) ,PE/SOV & SUPPORT+ 
HIM4 

0,IF ! /ORY ( SU* A GIRL W]E ?OR\<LY SIFT$1 Y\ W\LD 
F9D %E HAD AB&ON$ A FAMILY--H] [N OR A SI/]'S1 :]E %E 
MI<T HAVE F\ND A WOMAN'S DUTIES10 ,D>YA ,ALEX&ROVNA BROKE 9 
UNEXPECT$LY 9 A TONE ( EXASP]ATION1 PROBABLY SUSPECT+ :AT 
SORT ( GIRL ,/EPAN ,>KADYEVIT* WAS ?9K+ (4 

0,BUT WE TAKE \R /& ON PR9CIPLE AS ! IDEAL10 REPLI$ 
,PE/SOV 9 HIS MELL[ BASS4 0,WOMAN DESIRES TO HAVE RI<TS1 TO BE 
9DEP5D5T1 $UCAT$4 ,%E IS OPPRESS$1 HUMILIAT$ BY ! 
CONSCI\SNESS ( H] DISABILITIES40 

0,& ,I'M OPPRESS$ & HUMILIAT$ ?AT !Y WON'T 5GAGE ME AT 
! ,F\NDL+10 ! OLD PR9CE SAID AGA91 TO ! HUGE DELI<T ( 
,TUROVTS91 :O 9 HIS MIR? DROPP$ HIS ASP>AGUS ) ! ?ICK 
5D 9 ! SAUCE4 

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