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,AU?OR 3 ,ANONYM\S 

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,NEAL3 ,MY NAME'S ,NEAL4 ,I'VE BE5 9VOLV$ 9 AN>*I/ /UFF = A LONG :ILE4 ,I WAS 9VOLV$ 9 ,E>? ,FIR/61 ESPECIALLY >\ND M\NTA9TOP REMOVAL & ! /RUGGLE >\ND ?AT = A C\PLE ( YE>S :5 ,I WAS LIV+ 9 A DIFF]5T T[N4 ,& S9CE !N1 MOV+ H]E ,I GOT 9VOLV$ 9 DIFF]5T PROJECTS & FOLL[$ ! CURR5TS ?AT SEEM$ TO MAKE S5SE TO 5GAGE 9 AT ! TIME4 ,REALLY ,I />T$ \T ) A C\PLE ( NI<TS BE=E ! R5DEZV\S1 HAV+ ! DESIRE TO REFLECT ON :Y ,I WAS GO+4 ,SO ,I WAS ACTUALLY TRY+ TO SUSS \T P]SONALLY :Y ,I WAS !RE & TRY & ?9K1 WELL1 :AT HAS HAPP5$ 9 ! LA/ SEV5 OR EI<T YE>S S9CE BE+ 9VOLV$ 9 ,E>? ,FIR/6 /UFF ?AT HAS PULL$ ME AWAY8 ,BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE ?AT'S A VALUABLE ?+ TO ?9K AB\T1 BO? = PEOPLE :O >E 9 SOCIAL MOVEM5TS & PEOPLE :O >E NO LONG] P>T ( IT1 TO TRY & ?9K AB\T :AT BR+S PEOPLE 9 & :AT PU%ES !M AWAY4 ,& SO ,I WAS TRY+ TO REFLECT ON ?AT & IT BECAME SOME?+ MORE LIKE A CRITIQUE ( A C]TA9 MODEL1 OR WAY ( DO+ ACTIVISM1 IS SORT ( :AT CAME \T ( IT4 ,MA9LY COM+ FROM OBS]VATIONS AB\T :]E CONFLICT OR /RUGGLE HAS BE5 SORT ( TR5D+1 ,I GUESS Y\ C\LD SAY1 9 ! LA/ FEW YE>S1 ESPECIALLY S9CE #bh BUT MAYBE EV5 BE=E !N4 

,PANAGIOTI3 ,I'M ,PANAGIOTI1 & AS FOLKS SAID1 ,I WORK ON ! ,E>? ,FIR/6 ,J\RNAL COLLECTIVE4 ,SPECIFICALLY RELAT+ TO ?IS TEXT2 AFT] READ+ IT & SEE+ IT CIRCULATE AT ! R5DEZV\S 9 ,NOR? ,C>OL9A ?IS SUMM]1 MY FEEL+S W]E PRETTY /RONG & !N ESCALAT$ AS ,I ?\<T MORE AB\T IT4 ,! DANG] ( IT - & NOT DANG] 9 ?AT COOL1 EXCIT+1 0LET'S BE DANG]\S0 K9D ( WAY1 BUT 9 ! WAY ?AT'S C\NT]PRODUCTIVE TO GR[+ A MOVEM5T1 & SOME CONC]NS ?AT ,I HAVE 9 RELATION TO ?IS & TO ! HI/ORY ,I ?9K IT /EMS FROM & ! POT5TIAL FUTURE ( :]E IT C\LD GO >E :AT ,I HOPE TO PRES5T TONI<T2 9 P>TICUL> ?AT ,I ?9K IT'S MISDIRECT$ 9 CRITIQU+ ,E>? ,FIR/64 ,AL?\< !RE'S A LOT ( VALUABLE P]SPECTIVES & OP9IONS 9 IT1 ,I ?9K ?AT !RE'S GOT TO BE A BETT] WAY TO PRES5T ! CONCEPTS H]E )\T DEGRAD+ A MOVEM5T ?AT HAS A LOT TO (F] & HAS A HI/ORY ?AT'S M9IMIZ$ OR SORT ( IGNOR$ BY ! TEXT4 

,! DEBATE BEGAN ) A QUE/ION AB\T H[ TO RESPOND TO ! FLEXIBILITY ( CAPITALISM TODAY1 ) :I* \R 5EMIES (T5 CO-OPT OR \TMANEUV] \R RESI/ANCE 7= 9/ANCE BY BUILD+ NUCLE> P[] PLANTS :5 COAL M9+ IS POLITICALLY DIFFICULT1 OR VICE V]SA74 ,:AT CAN WE ACTUALLY HOPE TO GA9 BY FI<T+ P>TICUL> 9/ANCES ( ECOLOGICAL DE/RUCTION8 

,NEAL3 ,FIR/ & =EMO/1 ,I ?9K ?AT FI<T+ SPECIFIC 9/ANCES ( ECOLOGICAL DEVA/ATION (F]S AN OPPORTUNITY ?AT'S NOT FUNDAM5TALLY DIFF]5T ?AN ANY O!R TIME ?AT WE 9T]V5E 9 SOME SPECIFIC MANIFE/ATION ( ! SY/EMS WE HATE AS AN>*I/S4 ,! C5T] ( GRAVITY :5 WE 9T]V5E 9 SOME K9D ( 9/ANCE ( EI!R ECOLOGICAL DE/RUCTION OR EXPLOITATION OR OPPRESSION IS NOT TO 5GAGE 9 ! WAY ?AT WE'VE BE5 TAU<T ?AT POLITICS TYPICALLY WORK1 9 T]MS ( POLICY ANALY/S OR A QUANTITATIVE APPROA*1 BUT ! QUE/ION (3 H[ DO WE COME \T ( ?IS ) /RONG] & DEEP] AFF9ITIES ) NEW PEOPLE8 ,H[ DO WE COME \T ( ?IS AS MORE P[]FUL8 ,H[ DO WE COME \T ( ?IS ) GREAT] MAT]IAL ACCESS TO RES\RCES ?AN WE HAD BE=E8 ,H[ DO WE COME \T ( ?IS 5GAGEM5T ) NEW TACTICS ?AT WE HADN'T ?\<T ( BE=E8 

,WE'VE BE5 TAU<T ?AT IF WE /OP M\NTA9TOP REMOVAL ON ?IS SITE1 ?AT'S A VICTORY4 ,& ?AT DRIVES US =W>D2 IT GIVES US A S5SE ( URG5CY1 & ?AT CAN PROPEL US TO DO POSITIVE & EV5 C\RAGE\S ?+S4 ,BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO /EP BACK & SAY1 0,WAIT A SECOND1 !Y JU/ M9$ ! O!R M\NTA9 9/EAD40 ,IT DOES PU% US TO REEVALUATE H[ WE JUDGE SUCCESS4 ,I ?9K :AT ,I'M PROPOS+ 9 A S5SE IS ?AT WE TRY TO />T EVALUAT+ SUCCESS :5 WE 9T]V5E 9 A SOCIAL /RUGGLE 9 A DIFF]5T WAY3 LESS QUANTITATIVELY1 ORI5T$ T[>DS H[ MANY PETITION SIGNATURES DID Y\ GET1 H[ MANY VOTES DID Y\ GET1 DID Y\ BAN ?IS ?+ OR ?AT O!R ?+1 >E ! CAGES TWO FEET BY ONE FOOT WID] N[1 ET CET]A2 & MORE 9 ! DIRECTION ( A QUALITATIVE S5SE (1 DID WE COME \T ( ?AT MORE P[]FUL ?AN WE W5T 9TO IT8 

,I ?9K ?IS BECOMES EV5 MORE URG5T ON ! ECOLOGICAL FRONT :5 WE LOOK AT ! WAYS ?AT ECOLOGICAL DEVA/ATION IS TR5D+ N[1 :I* IS LESS & LESS T[>DS ?+S LIKE1 WE'RE TRY+ TO SAVE ?IS SPECIFIC ACRE ( =E/1 OR WE'RE TRY+ TO FREE !SE #a M9K1 & MORE & MORE T[>DS GIANT TOTALIZ+ ?+S LIKE CLIMATE *ANGE1 PEAK OIL1 MASSIVE DR\<TS & WAT] %ORTAGES1 DISA/]S LIKE ,S&Y & ,KATR9A4 ,?OSE K9DS ( 9/ANCES ( ECOLOGICAL DEVA/ATION REALLY >5'T 9/ANCES AT ALL1 !Y'RE HUGELY DIFFICULT TO GRASP PATT]NS ?AT ! TRADITIONAL ME?ODOLOGY ?AT WE'VE 9H]IT$ FROM ANIMAL RI<TS & =E/ DEF5SE WORK ?AT ,E>? ,FIR/6 /ILL L>GELY OP]ATES ON & HAS 9H]IT$ DOESN'T DEAL ) WELL4 ,A =E/ DEF5SE CAMPAIGN1 ?9K+ AB\T A PROBLEM 9 ! WAY ?AT A =E/ DEF5SE CAMPAIGN OR A NONVIOL5T CIVIL DISOB$I5CE CAMPAIGNS ORI5T Y\1 DOESN'T APPROA* ,HURRICANE ,S&Y V]Y WELL4 ,IT DOESN'T APPROA* CLIMATE *ANGE V]Y WELL1 BECAUSE !RE'S NOT A S+LE T>GET1 OR A SET ( S+LE T>GETS4 ,!RE'S JU/ ONE MASSIVE SOCIAL SY/EM4 ,& SO ?AT =CES US TO REEVALUATE NOT ONLY ! WAY WE DO CAMPAIGNS1 BUT ALSO H[ WE EVALUATE SUCCESS4 ,WE'RE LESS ORI5T$ T[>D SPECIFIC VICTORIES 9 ! %ORT T]M & MORE ORI5T$ T[>DS OP5+ UP SPACES ( G5]AL REVOLT1 BECAUSE ?AT'S REALLY ALL ?AT'S LEFT TO US4 

,PANAGIOTI3 ,I DO ?9K ?AT !RE >E SOME ?+S H]E4 ,I WANT TO ELABORATE ON :Y ,I 9ITIALLY SAID ?AT IT WAS MISDIRECT$ & DANG]\S 7NOT 9 A GOOD WAY74 ,& ?AT'S BECAUSE ,I ?9K ?AT ! VIEW IS A LITTLE BIT1 IT'S TOO AB/RACT1 :I* ,I ?9K HAS BE5 ADMITT$4 ,& ALSO1 = S\ND+ L>G] & BROAD]1 TO ME IT ACTUALLY REFLECTS A LESS LONG-T]M P]SPECTIVE OR VIEW ON \R P>TICIPATION 9 SOCIAL /RUGGLES4 ,& ,I SAY ?AT BECAUSE ,I'VE BE5 ORGANIZ+ UND] AN AN>*I/ MODEL & ESS5TIALLY1 UND] DIFF]5T BANN]S OR SLOGANS OR :ATEV]1 BUT = ! PA/ #ae OR #af YE>S1 & IT'S BE5 5\< TIME TO ACTUALLY SEE ACTUAL SUCCESSES & VICTORIES ON ! SMALL] SCALE ?AT HAVE RIPPL+ EFFECTS & HELP EVOLVE A S5SE ( /RATEGY4 ,= EXAMPLE1 Y\ KN[1 ! GR[? ( AN ANTI-COAL MOVEM5T BE+ POPUL>IZ$ & MA9/REAM$ 9 MY OP9ION1 AS OPPOS$ TO PROMOT+ NUCLE> 5]GY1 ?AT GAVE AN OPPORTUNITY = ORGANIZ+ AGA9/ GRE5 TE*NOLOGY & GRE5 CAPITALISM1 BECAUSE ! BACK 5D ( ?+S W]E COV]$4 ,AS F> AS ! TRAJECTORY ( CAPITALISM IS CONC]N$1 ! OLD ME?ODS W]E ALREADY UND] ATTACK BY A BROAD] MA9/REAM PRES5CE1 LEAV+ SPACE = US TO />T ATTACK+ ! O!R 5D3 BIOTE*NOLOGY1 SOL> & W9D AT ! 9DU/RIAL SCALE1 ALL !SE ?+S444 FRACK+ & O!R =MS ( EXTRACTION ?AT >E RELATIVELY NEW & UND] SCRUT9Y ?AT ,I ?9K /RATEGICALLY IT W\LD BE MORE IMPORTANT = US TO LOOK AT H[ WE TACKLE ?OSE ?+S4 ,Y\ KN[1 MAYBE SETT+ ASIDE SOME ( ! PURITANICAL ASPECTS ( AN>*I/ !ORY & IDEOLOGY1 & 9/EAD EMBRAC+ SOME ( ! BROAD] & PRACTICAL ELEM5TS (1 Y\ KN[1 BREAK+ UP P[] 9 A PRACTICAL & REAL WAY4 ,LIKE1 IF 5]GY COMPANIES >E ! MO/ P[]FUL COMPANIES ON ! PLANET1 REALLY P[]FUL S\RCES ( =CE ON ?IS PLANET1 MORE SO ?AN GOV]NM5TS OR O!R >EAS ( SOCIAL /RUGGLE1 !N IT MAKES S5SE TO ATTACK !M & FI<T !M & USE ! TOOLS ?AT >E AVAILABLE & REAL = US--:I* AT ?IS PO9T 9 ?IS C\NTRY PRIM>ILY IS AFF9ITY-GR\P-BAS$ DIRECT ACTION1 ALONG ) SMALL] CELLS ( UND]GR\ND SABOTAGE4 ,& ,I KN[ MAYBE ?AT'S K9D ( A CLI*E =MULA1 & ! TEXT WE'RE TALK+ AB\T REF]5CES ?AT A LITTLE BIT4 ,BUT IT'S ! TOOLS ?AT >E PRES5T H]E4 ,& ,I DON'T ?9K ?AT LIMITS US FROM P>TICIPAT+ 9 MOVEM5TS ?AT SPR+ UP LIKE ,OCCUPY ,WALL ,/REET OR ! ,>AB ,SPR+ & ?AT CURR5T ]A ( MOVEM5T ?AT'S HAPP5+ >\ND ! WORLD4 ,I ?9K1 ON ! CONTR>Y1 ?AT GIVES US EXP]I5CE1 IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEEP5 TRU/ & C\RAGE & SKILL & RELATION%IPS 9 A WAY ?AT ALL[S /RUGGLE TO BE MORE VALUABLE1 MORE ?REAT5+ TO \R OPPON5TS4 ,! EXAMPLES ,I WANT TO REF]5CE >E3 ! NUCLE> R5AISSANCE ?AT WAS BE+ H]ALD$ FIVE YE>S AGO AS A RESPONSE TO ! COAL BACKLA% IS N[ ALSO CRUMBL+1 9 P>T BECAUSE ( PUBLIC PRESSURE & 9 P>T BECAUSE ! :OLE ECONOMY IS CRUMBL+4 ,I ?9K IT'S WOR? GIV+ \RSELVES SOME CR$IT :]E IT'S DUE1 & NOT JU/ 9 ?AT REALM ( 5]GY1 ANTI-5]GY EXTRACTION WORK1 BUT ALSO LOCAL CAMPAIGNS4 ,LIKE :]E ,I LIVE1 ANIMAL RI<TS FOLKS HAVE BE5 FI<T+ ?IS VIVISECTION LABORATORY CALL$ ,PRIMATE ,PRODUCTS US+ ! ,%,A,C SORT ( MODEL :I* ,I ?9K A LOT ( PEOPLE HAVE SAID 0,OH1 IT'S PASSE10 OR 0,!RE'S F$]AL LEGISLATION1 IT'S TOO DANG]\S1 WE CAN'T DO IT40 ,& !Y JU/ %UT D[N ! PRIM>Y FACILITY !Y'VE BE5 FI<T+1 EV5 ?\< EV]YONE'S BE5 SAY+ ?AT ?AT'S AN OLD MODEL1 & !Y'RE SC>$ TO USE IT4 ,SO ,I ?9K !RE'S SOME?+ TO ?AT4 ,IT'S 5]GIZ+ & MOTIVAT+ & 9SPIR+ TO MOVE =W>D :5 WE ACTUALLY SUCCE$ 9 ! ?+S ?AT WE'RE DO+4 

,NEAL3 ,! FIR/ & =EMO/ LESSON OR ?+ ?AT ,I'VE SE5 FROM MAYBE LOOK+ AT ! LA/ FEW YE>S 9 !1 ON AN 9T]NATIONAL SCALE BUT ALSO ON A NATIONAL SCALE 9 T]MS ( :AT'S HAPP5+ ) SOCIAL /RUGGLE1 REBELLION ( AN ECOLOGICAL1 SOCIAL1 CLASS1 RACE1 :ATEV] NATURE IS ?AT IT'S BECOM+ 9CREAS+LY CLE> ?AT A GRADUALI/ MODE ( ATTACK+ ISSUES OR PROBLEMS NO LONG] SEEMS EV5 REMOTELY RELEVANT TO ME4 ,?AT'S SORT ( A %IFT444 ! TRADITIONAL WAY WE ?9K AB\T ?OSE ?+S1 OR WE'RE TAU<T TO IS ?AT AS ! ACTIVE RADICAL M9ORITY1 Y\ SORT ( 5GAGE ) ISSUES ?AT LOTS ( PEOPLE >E CONC]N$ AB\T1 & Y\ PU% IT & PEOPLE K9D ( AGREE ) Y\ & Y\ CAN GET MORE RADICAL & Y\ GRADUALLY HAVE MORE PEOPLE & !N EV5TUALLY Y\ HAVE A :OLE LOT ( PEOPLE1 & !N Y\ /ORM ! ,BA/ILLE4 ,BUT ?AT'S NOT REALLY H[ ?+S HAVE BE5 PLAY+ \T4 ,I DON'T KN[ IF PEOPLE HAVE NOTIC$1 BUT \T ( NO:]E1 ,TURKEY EXPLODES4 ,\T ( NO:]E1 ,BRAZIL EXPLODES4 ,Y\ KN[1 ,OCCUPY FEELS LIKE IT COMES \T ( NO:]E4 ,& ( C\RSE WE KN[ FROM BE+ CLOS] TO ?OSE ?+S ?AT !RE'S ACTUALLY ALL SORTS ( RELATION%IPS--ORGANIZATIONAL1 9DIVIDUAL1 P]SONAL1 POLITICAL--?AT RESULT 9 ?OSE K9DS ( SP>KS SUDD5LY CAT*+ FIRE4 ,& SOME ( ?AT IS EXACTLY ! K9D ( /UFF ?AT ,E>? ,FIR/6 W\LD BE DO+ OR ?AT ANY ( ! RE/ ( US W\LD BE DO+4 ,BUT ! LESSON ?AT ,I LE>N$ FROM IS ?AT ?+S T5D TO GO FROM Z]O TO SIXTY REALLY1 REALLY1 REALLY1 REALLY FA/4 ,& :AT T5DS TO GET LEFT BEH9D 9 ?OSE MOM5TS IS ! N>R[$1 ! UNNECESS>ILY N>R[ RANGE ( H[ WE ?9K AB\T H[ WE 9T]V5E AS ACTIVI/S4 ,ALL ( A SUDD51 ! 0,WELL WE SOMETIMES DO SABOTAGE1 & WE DO ABOVEGR\ND NONVIOL5T DIRECT ACTION BECOMES IRRELEVANT OV]NI<T1 9 T]MS ( ! TACTICAL & SOCIAL OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO US4 

,SO :AT ,I'M PROPOS+ IS NOT1 LIKE1 LET'S NOT DO ?OSE ?+S4 ,BUT LET'S RECOGNIZE ! FIELD ( POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY AB\T H[ TO POSSIBLY 5GAGE IS DRA/ICALLY BROAD] ?AN ?AT1 & ?AT ?OSE K9DS ( ?+S >5'T GO+ TO GET US :]E WE WANT TO GO4 ,IF Y\ ACKN[L$GE ?AT1 Y\ GO FUR!R4 

,! DISCUSSION W5T ON TO EXAM9E ! RELATION%IP BETWE5 ECOLOGICAL /RUGGLES & BROAD] SOCIAL UPHEAVALS1 9CLUD+ ! DI/9CTIVE CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY ,E>? ,FIR/6 P]SPECTIVES & TACTICS4 

,NEAL3 ,UND]/&+ ! LIMITATIONS ( CAPITALISM FROM AN ECOLOGICAL PO9T ( VIEW IS ONE EXAMPLE ( H[ ECO-DEF5SE CAN CONTRIBUTE TO BROAD] SOCIAL UPHEAVAL4 ,ANO!R EXAMPLE3 PRES5T+ A %>P & PO9T$ CRITIQUE ( ! GRE5 LEFT4 ,I ?9K ,E>? ,FIR/6 DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB1 & JU/ G5]ALLY GRE5 AN>*ISM OV] ! LA/ #ab YE>S1 #ae YE>S1 HAS DONE A GOOD JOB ( CRITICIZ+ GRE5 TE*NOLOGY1 ESPECIALLY 9 ! LA/ FIVE YE>S1 AS ?AT'S BECOME MORE--Y\ KN[1 ! GRE5 LI<T BULB ?+ IS EV]Y:]E1 ETCET]A1 ETCET]A4 ,BUT ! GRE5 LEFT1 9 T]MS ( !SE ORGANIZATIONS1 HAS BECOME MORE ( A /ICK+ PO9T 9 MY CONV]SATIONS ) FOLKS1 BECAUSE ON ! ONE H& !RE'S ?IS AN>*I/ CRITIQUE ( RECUP]ATION4 ,!RE %\LD BE AN AN>*I/ CRITIQUE ( RECUP]ATION4 ,MORE SPECIFICALLY1 H[ DOES AN 5VIRONM5TALI/ GR\P ?AT PRESSURES ! GOV]NM5T TO BAN A SPECIFIC =M ( DIRTY 5]GY ACTUALLY FUNCTION TO HELP EXT5D CAPITALISM'S LIFE SPAN8 ,DOES ?AT MAKE S5SE8 

,?AT CRITIQUE ( ! GRE5 LEFT CAN BE DONE BY PEOPLE :O >E \TSIDE ( GRE5 AN>*I/ CIRCLES1 BUT IT'S DONE BETT] BY PEOPLE 9 GRE5 AN>*I/ CIRCLES1 BECAUSE !Y HAVE AN UND]/&+1 A HI/ORICAL RELATION%IP ) SOME ( ?OSE ORGANIZATIONS4 ,?AT GETS AGA9 9TO ! QUE/ION (1 :O DO WE HAVE RELATION%IPS ) AS AN>*I/S :O C>E AB\T ! E>?1 RI<T8 

,?IRD ?+ ,I'D SAY1 %>+ SKILLS & POPUL>IZ+ =MS ( /RUGGLE ?AT 5C\RAGE A RELATION%IP TO ! L& IS SOME?+ ?AT SPECIFICALLY ECOLOGICAL REVOLUTION>IES CAN CONTRIBUTE ?AT'S UNIQUELY !IR [N4 ,& ALSO1 IT'S NOT JU/ AB\T RELATION%IPS ) O!R AN>*I/S OR O!R PEOPLE :O WANT TO /RUGGLE1 BUT SPECIFICALLY ) ! L&4 ,& !RE >E ALL K9DS ( REALLY AWESOME L& OCCUPATIONS ?AT ,I ?9K HAVE BROK5 ?R\< ! LIMITATIONS ( ACTIVISM1 & 9 ! PROCESS REALLY 5C\RAG$ A RELATION%IP ) ! L&4 ,Z,A,D IS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE1 & SOME ( ! FREE /ATES 9 ,NOR? ,AM]ICA >E GOOD EXAMPLES4 

,F\R?1 ,I W\LD SAY ! V>I\S TACTICAL SKILLS & CONCEPTS ?AT ! ECO-DEF5SE FOLKS1 ECOLOGICAL REVOLUTION>IES HAVE1 >E P>TICUL>LY USEFUL NOT JU/ = ! MORE N>R[ K9DS ( CAMPAIGNS ?AT >E CURR5TLY GO+ ON1 BUT ACTUALLY = ALL K9DS ( /RUGGLES ?AT WE HAV5'T EV5 ?\<T ( YET4 ,LIKE1 ALL ! DIFF]5T REASONS & WAYS Y\ C\LD BUILD A BLOCKADE APPLY TO A MILLION O!R SC5>IOS ?AT HAVE AN ECOLOGICAL B5T1 BUT MAYBE DON'T FALL )9 :AT WE ?9K ( AS ECO-DEF5SE4 

,PANAGIOTI3 ,I FEEL =TUNATE TO HAVE BE5 PRES5T AT ! TAIL 5D ( ! PREVI\S CLIMAX :5 ,E>? ,FIR/6 ORGANIZ+ ESS5TIALLY FACILITAT$ SOME ( ! ,W,T,O PROTE/S 9 ,SEATTLE BY US+ BLOCKAGES 9 ! /REET TO ESCALATE A G5]AL PROTE/ 9TO A MORE REBELLION-/YLE DEMON/RATION4 ,I ORGANIZE ) ! ,EV]GLADES ,E>? ,FIR/6 GR\P 9 ,FLORIDA1 & 9 G5]AL ,I'M 9 T\* ) A LOT ( ! ,E>? ,FIR/6 ORGANIZ+ ON ! EA/ COA/1 BUT ,I KN[ ?IS HAPP5$ ON ! WE/ COA/ AS WELL1 :]E ,E>? ,FIR/6 GR\PS W]E (F]+ A LOT ( ! TRA9+S & ORGANIZ+ ! DIRECT ACTION COMPON5T4 ,\R ,E>? ,FIR/6 GR\P />T$ ! DIRECT ACTION WORK+ GR\P AT ! ,OCCUPY ,PALM ,BEA* GR\P :]E ,I LIVE AT1 & DID REALLY 9T]E/+ %IT4 ,I MEAN1 NO?+ ?AT'S LIKE1 W\LD GET ANY:]E CLOSE TO ! WORD 09SURRECTION0 OR 0REBELLION10 BUT = ! CONTEXT W]E PU%+ ! 5VELOPE4 ,& ,I W\LD LIKE TO SEE MORE ( ?AT HAPP5+4 ,& IF !RE'S A DIFF]5T AV5UE OR VEHICLE TO DO IT1 !N GREAT4 ,BUT ,I ?9K ?AT ,E>? ,FIR/6 HAS A LOT ( TOOLS & RES\RCES TO MOVE =W>D ) ?AT4 

,!Y REFLECT$ ON SOCIAL & 5VIRONM5TAL /RUGGLES 9 ,GREECE1 :I* IS KN[N 9T]NATIONALLY AS A HUB = 9SURRECTION>Y UPHEAVALS RA!R ?AN CAMPAIGN-BAS$ /RUGGLES4 

,PANAGIOTI3 ,! CURR5T REALM ?AT A LOT ( ,GREEK AN>*I/S >E ORGANIZ+ 9 IS ?IS ANTI-GOLD M9+ CAMPAIGN MODEL ?AT'S LIKE--MAYBE IT'S K9D ( IRONIC1 BUT IT'S ONE ( ! MO/ EXCIT+ & 9T]E/+ ?+S HAPP5+ 9 ,GREECE1 9 P>T 9 LI<T ( ! FACT ?AT SOME ( ! PRIM>Y SQUATS W]E EVICT$ ?AT W]E HOME BASES ( 9SURRECTION 9 ,GREECE OV] ! PA/ C\PLE ( YE>S4 ,& JU/ 9 G5]AL ,I ?9K AFT] LIKE ?REE YE>S ( /RAI<T REBELLION ) LITTLE TO %[ = IT1 O!R ?AN ! 9T]V5TION ?AT'S OBVI\SLY REALLY 9SPIR+1 & GREAT PHOTOGRAPHS ) ! DOG 9 FRONT ( ! BURN+ COPS & /UFF4 ,I MEAN3 PEOPLE >E LIKE1 0,FUCK1 MAN60 K9D ( BUMM$ \T4 ,Y\ KN[8 ,& ,I ?9K ?AT ! ANTI-GOLD M9+ CAMPAIGN IS ?IS WEIRD REFRE%+ ?+ ?AT'S HAPP5+ !RE4 ,MAYBE BECAUSE 9 ! PA/1 ?AT /YLE ( CAMPAIGN ORGANIZ+ HADN'T QUITE HAPP5$ AS MU* OR HADN'T--AL?\< !Y'D BE5 FI<T+ GOLD M9+ = YE>S1 ,I ?9K ?AT ,I SAW A DIFF]5T & NEW 5]GY HAPP5+ !RE ?AT ,I ?\<T WAS 9 SOME WAYS A LESSON OR WOR? ?9K+ AB\T4 

,NEAL3 ,:5 ,I ?9K AB\T ,GREECE ,I DON'T GET ?AT EXCIT$ AB\T A GOLD M9+ CAMPAIGN4 ,9 ! LA/ FEW YE>S :AT'S EXCIT+ AB\T AN>*I/S 9 ,GREECE IS ?AT !Y'VE BUILT UP A SOCIAL =CE ?AT'S MAYBE ! ONLY SOCIAL =CE 9 ,GREECE /RONG 5\< TO OV]?R[ ! /ATE--:I* IS :AT WE WANNA DO AS AN>*I/S1 RI<T8 ,& W\LD MAKE ! ISSUE ( A GOLD COMPANY SOME:AT MOOT4 ,?AT BE+ SAID444 

,9CID5TALLY1 IF Y\'RE LOOK+ = EXAMPLES ( H[ TO BREAK \T ( ! MOLD1 OR NEV] 5T] 9TO ECOLOGICAL /RUGGLE 9 ! MOLD ( ACTIVISM & /ILL WANT TO LOOK AT ECOLOGICAL /RUGGLES 9 ,GREECE1 ,I SUGGE/ LOOK+ AT ! NEI<BORHOODS ?AT DE/ROY$ ALL ( ! HI<WAYS GO+ 9TO !IR CITY SO ?AT !Y C\LDN'T BUILD A L&FILL4 ,IT'S REALLY CRAZY & 9T]E/+4 ,IT W\LD PROBABLY BE MORE DIFFICULT H]E1 BUT IT'S AN 9T]E/+ ALT]NATIVE4 

,PANAGIOTI3 ,! ANTI-L&FILL CAMPAIGN1 Y\ MEAN8 

,NEAL3 ,YES1 IT WAS A CAMPAIGN4 ,BUT444 

,PANAGIOTI3 ,BUT IT WAS 9SURRECTION>Y TOO1 & ,I ?9K ?AT'S :AT WE'RE GETT+ AT4 

,NEAL3 ,EXACTLY4 ,?AT'S :AT WE'RE GETT+ AT4 

,!Y W5T ON TO DISCUSS ! DI/9CTION BETWE5 POLITICAL ID5TITY V]SUS AFF9ITY AS ! BASIS = \R %>$ /RUGGLE1 :ILE CRITICIZ+ 9/ITUTIONAL GRE5 LEFTI/ GR\PS4 ,! CONV]SATION CONCLUD$ ) FUR!R REFLECTIONS ON ! LIMITATIONS ( ! CAMPAIGN MODEL & ! IMPORTANCE ( A LONG VIEW = UND]/&+ ! VALUE ( \R 9T]V5TIONS OV] TIME4 

,NEAL3 ,:AT ,I W\LD PROPOSE1 IF IT SEEMS LIKE A FUNCTIONAL MODEL1 IS %IFT+ FROM :AT ,I W\LD CALL A POLITICS ( ID5TITY OR POLITICAL ID5TITY TO A POLITICS ( AFF9ITY4 ,! QUE/IONS *ANGE1 RI<T8 ,SO ! QUE/ION (1 >E !Y AN 5VIRONM5TALI/8 ,:AT DO !Y ?9K AB\T FRACK+ OR :AT DO !Y ?9K AB\T ! GOLD M9E OR :AT DO !Y ?9K AB\T ?IS1 ?AT1 OR ! O!R />TS TO %IFT 9TO SOME?+ MORE LIKE1 DO !Y WANNA SEE ! SAME ?+S ,I WANNA SEE8 ,DO !Y HAVE SOME ( ! SAME DESIRES ,I HAVE8 ,AM ,I ABLE TO BE FRI5DS ) !M8 ,I DON'T GIVE A %IT :E!R SOMEONE CALLS !MSELF AN 5VIRONM5TALI/4 ,I DON'T C>E :AT BUMP] /ICK]S >E ON !IR C>1 ,I DON'T C>E H[ !Y VOTE1 ,I DON'T C>E EV5 IF !Y CALL !MSELVES AN AN>*I/4 ,DON'T C>E4 ,:AT ,I C>E AB\T IS :5 ,I'M 9 A SITUATION ?AT CALLS =--& ,I WANT TO 9T]V5E 9 A C]TA9 WAY1 DO !Y WANT TO DO ! SAME ?+S8 ,DO WE HAVE SOME?+1 SOME K9D ( BASIS = AFF9ITY8 ,& ?AT CAN COME FROM A LOT ( UNPR$ICTABLE PLACES ?AT >E TOTALLY \TSIDE ! WORLD ( POLITICS AS WE T5D TO HAVE TAU<T \RSELVES TO ?9K AB\T IT4 

,SO ?AT SORT ( GETS AT ! DIFF]5CE BETWE5 ! CAMPAIGN MODEL & ! MODEL ( NEI<BORS =M+ FI<T CREWS ?AT DEF5D IMMIGRANTS .<AGA9/.> ! ,GOLD5 ,DAWN1 RI<T8 ,IT GETS AT SOME ( ! DIFF]5CES BETWE5 ACTUALLY ! L& CAMPAIGN & ! GOLD M9+ CAMPAIGN4 ,BUT MORE TO \R PO9T H]E1 IT RELIES ON A REALLY %>P CRITIQUE ?AT WE NE$ TO HAVE ( ! 5VIRONM5TAL LEFT4 ,I ALSO ?9K FROM AN ECOLOGICAL P]SPECTIVE ?AT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO UND]/& ! GRE5 LEFT1 BECAUSE IT'S ! LEFT ?AT'S GONNA SELL \T ! NEXT MAJOR SOCIAL REVOLUTION 9 ?IS C\NTRY4 ,Y\ KN[1 IF ! WORK]'S LEFT WAS ! LEFT ?AT SOLD \T ! SOCIAL REVOLUTION 9 ! LA/ C5TURY1 IT'S GO+ TO BE ! GRE5 LEFT ?AT DOES IT ?IS TIME4 

,IF Y\ %IFT FROM BE+ WORRI$ AB\T :AT SOMEBODY'S POLITICAL ID5TITY IS ) REF]5CE TO SPECIFIC POLICIES T[>DS AN ISSUE ( 0,OH1 CAN ,I ACT ) ?IS P]SON8 ,DO WE HAVE SOME K9D ( AFF9ITY80 ,IF Y\ %IFT FROM ONE TO ! O!R1 Y\ 5D UP SOME:]E 9 ! MIDDLE1 BECAUSE !RE'S ALWAYS GO+ TO BE PEOPLE ) :OM Y\ %>E BO? POLITICAL ID5TITY & AFF9ITY4 ,BUT ! REAL ISSUE IS AFF9ITY1 NOT :E!R ON PAP]1 >E WE BO? 5VIRONM5TALI/S8 ,O,K1 COOL1 ,I'M JU/ A MORE RADICAL V]SION ( !M4 ,NO1 WE'RE SOME?+ FUNDAM5TALLY DIFF]5T6 ,& SO AFFIRM+ ?AT MEANS A REAL /RONG BREAK ) ! LEFT4 ,I ?9K ?AT HAS TO HAPP54 

,PANAGIOTI3 ,ALL RI<T4 ,/RONG BREAK ) ! LEFT4 ,SO WE W]E FI<T+ ?IS CAMPAIGN AGA9/ ,SCRIPPS1 ?IS BIOTE* COMPANY :O WANT$ TO CLE> =E/S = BUILD+ GIANT FACILITIES4 ,& !IR NEXT PROPOSAL CAME UP1 & ALL ! PEOPLE :O HAD COMPROMIS$ ON ! FIR/ VICTORY W]E LIKE1 WE CAN'T T\* ?IS ONE--WE BASICALLY TOLD !M ANY:]E BUT H]E4 ,SO IT WAS JU/ US :O W]E LEFT1 & !N ! R&OM W+NUTS :O ALSO OPPOS$ ,SCRIPPS BECAUSE !Y NE$$ @s#e MILLION ( PUBLIC MONEY TO MOVE =W>D4 ,:I* LEFT US BASICALLY HANG+ \T ) PEOPLE 9 ! FUCK+ ,TEA ,P>TY1 OR LIKE FISCAL CONS]VATIVE CIRCLES4 ,& MO/ ( ! PEOPLE ,I HANG \T ) W]E NOT UP = GO+ TO ?OSE MEET+S ( ,Y\NG ,REPUBLICANS & ,TEA ,P>TY PEOPLE4 ,I DID4 ,IT MO/LY SUCK$1 & ,I FEEL LIKE ,I GOT TO CALL PEOPLE \T & K9D ( EXPOSE !M = !IR RHETORIC BE+ HOLL[4 ,BUT !N ,I'D OCCASIONALLY F9D SOMEONE :O WAS 9 ! BACK ( ! ROOM :O W\LD SAY 0,MY GOD1 !Y TE/ ON ANIMALS1 ?AT'S DISGU/+60 ,OR W\LD BE CRITICAL AB\T ! CORPORATE WELF>E ELEM5T4 

,9 #bc :5 WE W]E ORGANIZ+ = SOME SEMBLANCE ( A DIRECT-ACTION CONFRONTATION ) ! ,F,T,A,A1 WE ALSO W5T TO ! WEIRD ,A,F,L-,C,I,O LUN*EONS & /UFF1 SO WE C\LD F9D \T :O !RE WAS ON BO>D = BE+ 9 A MASS M>* SO WE C\LD BE PRES5T 9 ! /REETS AS WELL4 ,SO Y\ KN[1 YEAH1 ,I ?9K WE %\LD BREAK FROM ! LEFT4 ,BUT ! ORGANIZ$ RI<T ISN'T ?AT 9T]E/+1 OR SOME?+ A LOT ( PEOPLE WANT TO BE P>T (4 ,SO YEAH1 HOPEFULLY WE TRANSC5D ?OSE CATEGORIES :5 WE /EP 9TO ! REALM ( ACTUALLY DO+ %IT1 Y\ HAVE TO F9D PEOPLE :]E !Y'RE AT4 ,& IT TAKES MORE ?AN :O'S HANG+ \T 9 ! BREAK ROOM AT Y\R JOB1 Y\ KN[8 

,NEAL3 ,I WAS SORT ( SE>*+ = A CONCRETE EXAMPLE ( ?IS AFF9ITY CONCEPT V]SUS ID5TITY1 & !N ,PANAGIOTI SORT ( LIKE--?AT'S EXACTLY :AT ,I'M TALK+ AB\T1 REALLY4 ,IT'S LESS A RELATION%IP ) ?IS 9/ITUTION OR !SE GR\PS BETWE5 O!R GR\PS1 BETWE5 O!R ACTIVI/ GR\PS1 & MORE (1 WELL1 IT SUCKS DO+ ! H>D WORK ( GO+ TO ?IS MEET+4 ,BUT Y\ DON'T GO TO 5GAGE ) ! ,A,F,L-,C,I,O BOSS4 ,Y\ GO TO HAVE A CONV]SATION ) DIFF]5T PEOPLE1 & SAY1 !RE'S !SE ?REE OR F\R PEOPLE :O WE HAVE SOME AFF9ITY ) & AT LEA/ !Y'RE GONNA TELL US :AT !IR BOSSES >E UP TO1 ETCET]A4 ,& ?AT'S REALLY SORT ( :AT ,I'M SUGGE/+4 

,& ?AT'S NOT A NEW SUGGE/ION2 ?AT'S NOT SOME?+ ?AT AN>*I/S >5'T DO+4 ,AN>*I/S ALREADY DO ?AT ALL ! TIME :5 WE TRY & 5GAGE ON A COMMUNITY LEVEL1 LOCALLY OR REGIONALLY1 WE F9D \RSELVES HAV+ TO PLAY ?AT AWKW>D GAME4 ,?AT HAPP5$ A LOT ) ,OCCUPY4 ,BUT ,I /ILL ?9K TO AN EXT5T = :ATEV] REASON 9 ECOLOGICAL CIRCLES1 !RE'S /ILL A FAIRLY /RONG RELATION%IP ) A LOT ( GR\PS LIKE ,R,A,N1 EV5 TO AN EXT5T ) ,SI]RA ,CLUB1 ,GRE5PEACE1 ETCET]A4 ,& !RE IS ?IS T5D5CY :]E1 ESPECIALLY IF Y\ LOOK AT ! SPECTRUM ON :I* !SE GR\PS OP]ATE1 ,E>? ,FIR/6 REALLY DOES LOOK LIKE A MORE RADICAL V]SION ( !M4 

,I'M NOT PROPOS+ ?AT WE DON'T HAVE A /RONG ECOLOGICAL AN>*I/ RESI/ANCE MOVEM5T4 ,I'M PROPOS+ ?AT ANY /RONG AN>*I/ MOVEM5T ( ANY K9D1 BUT P>TICUL>LY A /RONG ECOLOGICAL AN>*I/ MOVEM5T1 HAS TO SET AS ITS GOAL BREAK+ \T ( ! LIMITATIONS ( :AT HAS BE5 DEF9$ AS ACTIVISM4 ,& IF ?AT DOESN'T HAPP51 WE />T TO FAIL4 ,WE />T TO <ETTOIZE1 WE />T TO SPECIALIZE1 9 P>TICUL>4 ,:AT WE DO BECOMES MORE & MORE SPECIALIZ$3 Y\ NE$ #ae DIFF]5T K9DS ( SPECIAL ROLES TO PULL (F AN ACTION4 ,Y\ GOT Y\R POLICE LIAISON1 Y\ GOT Y\R LEGAL LIAISON444 ,I ?9K WE %\LD ASK ! QUE/ION1 H[ DOES ?AT K9D ( PROTE/ LOOK DIFF]5T ?AN ! K9DS ( MOM5TS ?AT WE HAVE F\ND EXCIT+ AS AN>*I/S8 

,! PO9T IS NOT TO SAY1 0WELL1 IF ! ONLY PLACE WE CAN />T & BEG9 FROM IS ACTIVISM1 FUCK IT1 ,I'M NOT GONNA BEG91 ,I'M NOT DO+ ANY?+40 ,?AT'S NOT :AT ,I'M PROPOS+4 ,I'M SAY+1 IF ?AT'S :]E WE HAVE TO />T FROM1 F9E1 BUT LET'S BE 9T5TIONAL AB\T ?AT BE+ A MODEL WE'RE TRY+ TO BREAK \T (4 ,& LET'S BE CONSCI\S ( :Y WE'RE TRY+ TO BREAK \T ( ?AT MODEL2 LET'S 9CLUDE AN ANALYSIS & CRITIQUE1 A SELF-CRITIQUE ( ! MODEL & H[ IT KEEPS US :]E WE >E4 

,AS LONG AS WE REMA9 CON/RA9$ 9 ?IS CAMPAIGN MODEL1 WE >E LETT+ ! WAY WE DO \R AN>*ISM1 \R REBELLION1 BE DEF9$ BY ! /ATE1 :I* WILL =EV] KEEP IT CON/RA9$4 ,& SO ! GOAL HAS TO BE TO CONSCI\SLY GET \T ( ?AT EV5 ?\< WE />T 9 ?AT PLACE4 ,& ?AT'S NOT JU/ AN AB/RACT OBS]VATION2 ?AT ACTUALLY CONCRETELY *ANGES ! K9DS ( ?+S WE *OOSE TO DO & :Y WE *OOSE TO DO !M1 RI<T8 ,SO ,I MI<T NOT BO!R ) A CAMPAIGN ?AT ,I KN[ WILL 5D ) A PETITION DRIVE1 EV5 IF IT WILL W91 RI<T8 ,BECAUSE IT WON'T GET TO ! PO9TS ?AT ,I WANT TO GET TO4 ,BECAUSE ,I'M NOT ORI5T$ T[>DS ?IS IMM$IATE POLICY ISSUE2 ,I'M ORI5T$ T[>DS SOME?+ ELSE4 

,PANAGIOTI3 ,I MI<T BO!R ) ! PETITION CAMPAIGN1 LIKELY BECAUSE ,I KN[ ! PEOPLE :O >E 9ITIAT+ IT OR HOP+ TO SEE IT SUCCE$ 9 SOME WAY4 ,9 ?IS REC5T VICTORY AGA9/ A NUKE PLANT 9 ,LEVY ,C\NTY1 A RURAL C\NTY 9 ,NOR? ,FLORIDA1 A BEAUTIFUL PLACE ) MORE FRE%WAT] SPR+S ?AN ANY:]E 9 ! WORLD1 IT'S LIKE WOR? *ECK+ \T4 ,& PEOPLE !RE REALLY DIDN'T WANT A FUCK+ NUCLE> P[] PLANT TO BE BUILT 9 ! /ATE =E/ 9 !IR BACKY>D4 ,& 9 ! 5D1 Y\ KN[1 ! VICTORY WAS MO/LY CR$IT$ TO ! ,N,G,OS :O HIR$ ATTORNEYS TO DEFEAT IT4 ,BUT WE W]E PRES5T ) \R LITTLE K9D ( SMALL-SCALE ACTION CAMP & SOME LEVEL ( PRES5CE TO EXPRESS SOLID>ITY & SUPPORT 9 A RURAL COMMUNITY ?AT'S PROBABLY NEV] GO+ TO COME TO ! CITY TO P>TICIPATE 9 AN 9SURRECTION4 ,BUT IT FELT VALUABLE & MEAN+FUL4 

,& ,I ?9K IT'S IMPORTANT TO FIGURE \T H[ TO NAVIGATE ! RELATION%IP BETWE5 \R FEEL+S ( URG5CY & :AT'S ACTUALLY REALLY HAPP5+ >\ND US4 ,BECAUSE SOMETIMES !Y 9T]SECT & SOMETIMES !Y'RE TOO F> (F TO BE USEFUL1 & ,I ?9K ?AT JU/ COMES ) TRY+ IT4 ,Y\ KN[1 /ICK+ >\ND = A C\PLE DECADES & TRY+ TO SEE :]E IT GOES1 :]E ! ?+S ?AT Y\ PUT EF=T 9TO1 :]E !Y RESULT 9 T5 YE>S D[N ! ROAD4 ,& Y\ KN[1 ,I UND]/& FEEL+ URG5T & N]V\S AB\T WAIT+ ?AT LONG1 BUT444 Y\ DO :AT Y\ CAN1 :AT SEEMS TO MAKE S5SE TO Y\ 9 ! MOM5T1 & A C\PLE YE>S D[N ! L9E1 Y\ GET TO LOOK AT IT & SEE :AT ! RESULTS W]E & TRY SOME?+ NEW4 ,& IF Y\ HAV5'T ?\<T AB\T /ICK+ >\ND = ! NEXT C\PLE DECADES 9 ?IS CIRCLE ( PEOPLE 9 ! AN>*I/ /RUGGLE1 ,I HOPE ?AT Y\'LL LEAVE H]E1 MORE ?AN ANY?+ ELSE WE TALK$ AB\T1 ?AT Y\'LL LEAVE H]E ?9K+ AB\T ?AT4 ,O,K1 ,I'M GO+ TO /ICK >\ND = ! RE/ ( MY LIFE 9 ?IS & SEE H[ IT GOES4 

,CL>A3 ,WELL1 :AT DID Y\ ?9K1 ,ALANIS8 

,ALANIS3 ,HMM444 ,I ?9K !Y BO? MADE SOLID PO9TS1 & DIDN'T ACTUALLY SEEM TO BE DISAGREE+ MO/ ( ! TIME4 ,& C]TA9LY ,I AGREE ?AT ! NEW GLOBAL CONTEXT MEANS WE HAVE TO *ANGE H[ WE ORI5T \RSELVES T[>DS ECO-DEF5SE /RUGGLES & CAMPAIGNS4 ,BUT !RE'S A PO9T ?AT SEEM$ CRUCIAL TO ME ?AT NEI!R ( !M REALLY T\*$ ON4 

,?9K+ BACK TO \R ?IRD EPISODE ON GRE5 AN>*ISM1 IT SEEMS LIKE ! ?+ ?AT SETS ,E>? ,FIR/6 AP>T FROM MO/ O!R 5VIRONM5TAL GR\PS IS !IR BIOC5TRISM--Y\ KN[1 SEE+ ! DEF5SE ( ! WILD & LIV+ BE+S AS AN 5D 9 & ( ITSELF1 NOT A MEANS TO AN 5D4 ,?IS 9SURRECTION>Y POSITION SEEMS 9COMPATIBLE ) BIOC5TRISM1 BECAUSE IT EVALUATES ECO-DEF5SE /RUGGLES BAS$ ON :E!R OR NOT !Y OP5 UP NEW AFF9ITIES & RUPTURES1 9/EAD ( :E!R OR NOT !Y SUCCESSFULLY DEF5D ! E>?4 ,9 ?AT S5SE1 ! 9SURRECTION>Y POSITION IS ACTUALLY MORE SIMIL> TO ! GRE5 LEFT'S >GUM5TS ?AT WE %\LD PROTECT L& & WILDLIFE BECAUSE IT'S GOOD = ! ECONOMY1 OR T\RISM1 OR RECREATION1 OR :ATEV]4 ,9 ALL ( !SE CASES1 ! VALUE ISN'T LIFE = ITSELF1 BUT AS A MEANS TO SOME?+ ELSE ?AT'S VALU$ MORE HI<LY4 ,IT MATT]S V]Y MU* :E!R OR NOT Y\ W9 A P>TICUL> CAMPAIGN IF Y\ LIVE 9 ! WAT]%$ ( ! L& ?AT'S AB\T TO BE HYDR(RACK$1 OR = ! LIV+ ?+S 9 A =E/ ?REAT5$ ) CLE>-CUTT+1 RI<T8 ,= ,E>? ,FIR/6]S :O VALUE LIFE = ITS [N SAKE1 IT SEEMS LIKE Y\ W\LD REJECT ! NOTION ?AT ECO CAMPAIGNS >E ONLY VALUABLE AS A MEANS TO ANO!R 5D--EV5 IF ?AT 5D IS ANTI-CAPITALI/ REVOLUTION4 

,CL>A3 ,BUT ,I ?9K ! CRITIQUE IS ?AT S+LE-ISSUE CAMPAIGNS1 :E!R OR NOT !Y W9 !IR GOALS1 >5'T SUCCE$+ AT CATALYZ+ ! K9DS ( BROAD] REVOLTS ?AT ACTUALLY HAVE ! POT5TIAL TO TOPPLE CAPITALISM--& ISN'T ANTI-CAPITALI/ REVOLUTION ?AT HALTS ! ECOCIDAL ECONOMY ! ONLY WAY TO ACTUALLY DEF5D ! E>? 9 ! LONG T]M8 

,ALANIS3 ,WELL1 YEAH1 ,I ?9K SO1 & ,I ?9K BO? ( ! DEBAT]S W\LD AGREE4 ,BUT ?AT'S A QUE/ION ( ! BE/ /RATEGY T[>DS ! GOAL ( DEF5D+ ! 5VIRONM5T1 SEP>ATE FROM ! QUE/ION ,I'M TRY+ TO RAISE ( :E!R DEF5D+ ANY P>TICUL> PIECE ( IT IS A MEANS TO ?AT BROAD] 5D OR AN 5D 9 & ( ITSELF4 ,EI!R WAY1 WE GOTTA RE?9K \R /RATEGY = ECO-DEF5SE1 :5 REBELLION & RECUP]ATION COME AT A FA/] & FA/] PACE4 ,BUT ,I DON'T ?9K ,E>? ,FIR/6]S >E GONNA AB&ON BIOC5TRISM = ! IDEA ?AT !SE /RUGGLES >E ONLY WOR?:ILE AS MEANS TO AN 9SURRECTION>Y 5D4 

,CL>A3 ,I'M /ILL A LITTLE UNCLE> AB\T :AT'S BE+ PROPOS$ :5 WE TALK AB\T AFF9ITY V]SUS POLITICAL ID5TITY4 0,AFF9ITY0 SEEMS PRETTY VAGUE = SU* A C5TRAL CONCEPT TO ! 9SURRECTIONI/ CRITIQUE4 ,I MEAN1 POLITICAL ID5TITY ISN'T 9 OPPOSITION TO AFF9ITY2 IT'S A P>TICUL> TYPE ( AFF9ITY1 AS IS LIV+ 9 ! SAME NEI<BORHOOD OR GETT+ ALONG AS FRI5DS OR :ATEV] ELSE4 ,! QUE/ION IS H[ USEFUL ANY P>TICUL> TYPE ( AFF9ITY IS AS A BASIS = /RUGGLE1 RI<T8 ,& ,I GET ?AT ! CRITIQUE IS ?AT POLITICAL ID5TITY1 I4E41 CALL+ Y\RSELF A RADICAL OR AN 5VIRONM5TALI/ OR AN AN>*I/ OR :ATEV]1 ISN'T ! C5TRAL BASIS = AFF9ITY 9 CONTEMPOR>Y /RUGGLES4 ,! EXAMPLES !Y TALK$ AB\T FROM ,OCCUPY & SU* MAKES ?AT CLE>4 ,BUT ,I'M NOT SURE ?AT ,I'M CONV9C$ ?AT O!R MORE 9=MAL TYPES ( AFF9ITY >E ACTUALLY /RONG] OR MORE RELIABLE4 

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